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<description>Discuss interface specification for Icoper conent space and decide on first experiments</description>
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<chat personid="0" time="00:24" timestamp="1226998825" jumptime="00:00:00">hello Joris, hello Zuzana!</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="00:32" timestamp="1226998833" jumptime="00:00:00">hi michael and joris :)</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="00:40" timestamp="1226998841" jumptime="00:00:00">hi</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:16" timestamp="1226998877" jumptime="00:00:00">I suggest we wait some minutes for everybody to arrive</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:20" timestamp="1226998881" jumptime="00:00:00">sure</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:59" timestamp="1226998920" jumptime="00:00:00">i have prepared a short presentation of my ideas. maybe you want to have a look at it meanwhile?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:13" timestamp="1226998934" jumptime="00:00:00">of course</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="02:21" timestamp="1226998942" jumptime="00:00:00">http://www.slideshare.net/guestbbf13d/use-cases-for-the-ics-presentation/</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="02:25" timestamp="1226998946" jumptime="00:00:00">Hi Everybody</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="02:36" timestamp="1226998957" jumptime="00:00:00">hi amir :)</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:50" timestamp="1226998971" jumptime="00:00:00">Here is the agenda I wanted to suggest. Please modify it if you have any ideas: http://www.educanext.org/dotlrn/clubs/icoper/wp1/new-lors/content_provider/agenda_18_11_08</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:58" timestamp="1226998979" jumptime="00:00:00">Hello Amir</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="05:50" timestamp="1226999151" jumptime="00:00:00">hi all</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="06:02" timestamp="1226999163" jumptime="00:00:00">Hello Roland</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="06:19" timestamp="1226999180" jumptime="00:00:00">hello giancarlo and elisabetta :)</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="06:28" timestamp="1226999189" jumptime="00:00:00">hello Giancarlo, hello Elisabeta</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="06:34" timestamp="1226999195" jumptime="00:00:00">Hi, good morning :-)</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="07:36" timestamp="1226999257" jumptime="00:00:32">fine</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="07:36" timestamp="1226999257" jumptime="00:00:32">ok</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="07:44" timestamp="1226999265" jumptime="00:00:40">ok</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="08:12" timestamp="1226999293" jumptime="00:01:08">http://www.educanext.org/dotlrn/clubs/icoper/wp1/new-lors/content_provider/agenda_18_11_08</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="09:24" timestamp="1226999365" jumptime="00:02:20">sound ok</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="09:32" timestamp="1226999373" jumptime="00:02:28">it&apos;s ok</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="09:32" timestamp="1226999373" jumptime="00:02:28">its loud and clear</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="09:50" timestamp="1226999391" jumptime="00:02:46">everybody can hear me, right?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="12:46" timestamp="1226999567" jumptime="00:05:42">Giancarlo, how about HIVE?</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="13:39" timestamp="1226999620" jumptime="00:06:35">we have to check the compatibility with SPI and OAI-PMH</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="15:27" timestamp="1226999728" jumptime="00:08:23">But how about HIVE in this context? We have discussed this in Paris...</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="18:11" timestamp="1226999892" jumptime="00:11:07">I cannot here you Giancarlo?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="18:12" timestamp="1226999893" jumptime="00:11:08">nothing is coming through of giancarlo here.. </chat>
<chat personid="3" time="18:29" timestamp="1226999910" jumptime="00:11:25">cant hear you Giancarlo</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="18:30" timestamp="1226999911" jumptime="00:11:26">no sound</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="18:33" timestamp="1226999914" jumptime="00:11:29">:(</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="18:46" timestamp="1226999927" jumptime="00:11:42">sorry it seems we have some problems with the microphone</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="18:56" timestamp="1226999937" jumptime="00:11:52">can you write?</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="20:12" timestamp="1227000013" jumptime="00:13:08">Hi, unfortunately I have again some problems with my microphone. But I would like to point out that we, Jan and I, prepared two questionnaires for all the work packages (WPs). We will send them today to WP1 and other packages. The goal of those questionnaires is to get better understanding of WPs from the viewpoint of WP7 and to share some ideas.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="20:37" timestamp="1227000038" jumptime="00:13:33">Denis, ok!</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="21:30" timestamp="1227000091" jumptime="00:14:26">Please Zuzana do so!</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="21:43" timestamp="1227000104" jumptime="00:14:39">http://www.slideshare.net/guestbbf13d/use-cases-for-the-ics-presentation/</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="21:45" timestamp="1227000106" jumptime="00:14:41">sure Zuzana</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="23:41" timestamp="1227000222" jumptime="00:16:37">hi. finally it works!</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="26:35" timestamp="1227000396" jumptime="00:19:31">hello sebastian</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="29:28" timestamp="1227000569" jumptime="00:22:24">http://www.educanext.org/dotlrn/clubs/icoper/wp1/new-lors/scenarios/content_authoring</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="30:10" timestamp="1227000611" jumptime="00:23:06">Zuzana, good work! This actually corresponds to the vision of our WP7. But I think we could consider one more use case or perspective, namely eLearning application developer. Lets consider such a situation. For example, I am a software developer and I would like to develop an eLearning application. I want to be sure that my application will be interoperable and competence oriented. As a develoepr I would expect that ICOPER would help me in this issue ;-) </chat>
<chat personid="1" time="31:58" timestamp="1227000719" jumptime="00:24:54">sure, denis, we can later have a discussion about this, ok?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="32:12" timestamp="1227000733" jumptime="00:25:08">so that we don&apos;t interrupt this discussion</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="32:42" timestamp="1227000763" jumptime="00:25:38">This perspective is tottally missing now. But I think its is important if we really want to assure competence and interoperability. I think it could belong primarily to WP1 </chat>
<chat personid="1" time="33:05" timestamp="1227000786" jumptime="00:26:01">we can set another flashmeeting for this</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="33:15" timestamp="1227000796" jumptime="00:26:11">Yes, this is discussed in our questionnaires which I will send a little bit later</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="34:17" timestamp="1227000858" jumptime="00:27:13">YES :)</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="34:17" timestamp="1227000858" jumptime="00:27:13">yes</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="34:18" timestamp="1227000859" jumptime="00:27:14">sound ok</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="34:19" timestamp="1227000860" jumptime="00:27:15">yes</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="34:21" timestamp="1227000862" jumptime="00:27:17">sound ok</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="37:15" timestamp="1227001036" jumptime="00:30:11">YES :)</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="38:18" timestamp="1227001099" jumptime="00:31:14">iCoper plugin to Moodle, .LRN, Claroline....</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="38:37" timestamp="1227001118" jumptime="00:31:33">yes, this is the idea</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="40:25" timestamp="1227001226" jumptime="00:33:21">Elisabetta, you already have something ready, right?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="41:45" timestamp="1227001306" jumptime="00:34:41">Is there any chance to unify KUL and GiuntiLabs technology?</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="41:55" timestamp="1227001316" jumptime="00:34:51">nothin ready ... but working on a technical proposal</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="42:29" timestamp="1227001350" jumptime="00:35:25">Zuzana, &apos;plugins&apos; to existing TELs are ok. But I think ICOPER should anticipate also possible future trends. e.g. mobile based TEL applications etc. This should not be priority #1. But I think WP 1 should keep it in mind ;-) </chat>
<chat personid="8" time="42:48" timestamp="1227001369" jumptime="00:35:44">we have to investigate KUL a little bit better ....</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="43:21" timestamp="1227001402" jumptime="00:36:17">indeed we need to discuss this</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="43:56" timestamp="1227001437" jumptime="00:36:52">Denis, sure. the plugin should be as flexible as possible</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="43:58" timestamp="1227001439" jumptime="00:36:54">we&apos;ll check..by the way, where could we find further details about KUL platform?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="44:25" timestamp="1227001466" jumptime="00:37:21">i&apos;ll put some information on educanext</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="44:31" timestamp="1227001472" jumptime="00:37:27">thank you</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="44:42" timestamp="1227001483" jumptime="00:37:38">or i can send it by mail if you prefer this</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="45:11" timestamp="1227001512" jumptime="00:38:07">yes please..we&apos;ll also post info about Hive</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="46:42" timestamp="1227001603" jumptime="00:39:38">yes please info about HIVE, KUL etc should help us a lot</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="47:49" timestamp="1227001670" jumptime="00:40:45">yes. thank, Zuzana! I think it should be organized by our WP7</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="48:06" timestamp="1227001687" jumptime="00:41:02">wp8&amp;9 also interested ;)</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="48:35" timestamp="1227001716" jumptime="00:41:31">thanks michael :)</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="48:43" timestamp="1227001724" jumptime="00:41:39">thanks, Michael</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="48:52" timestamp="1227001733" jumptime="00:41:48">thanks</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="49:28" timestamp="1227001769" jumptime="00:42:24">ok</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="50:05" timestamp="1227001806" jumptime="00:43:01">elisabetta, i don&apos;t have your skype</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="50:19" timestamp="1227001820" jumptime="00:43:15">i would like to discuss some ideas with you and giancarlo</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="50:22" timestamp="1227001823" jumptime="00:43:18">I&apos;ll send you by email</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="50:24" timestamp="1227001825" jumptime="00:43:20">can you please write me</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="50:26" timestamp="1227001827" jumptime="00:43:22">ok :)</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="50:26" timestamp="1227001827" jumptime="00:43:22">yes sure</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="52:48" timestamp="1227001969" jumptime="00:45:44">yes sure</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="53:00" timestamp="1227001981" jumptime="00:45:49">thanks, talk to you in a week</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="53:02" timestamp="1227001983" jumptime="00:45:49">bye bye</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="53:03" timestamp="1227001984" jumptime="00:45:49">thanks &amp; bye</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="53:04" timestamp="1227001985" jumptime="00:45:49">thanks bye</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="53:05" timestamp="1227001986" jumptime="00:45:49">bye</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="53:06" timestamp="1227001987" jumptime="00:45:49">bye bye</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="53:09" timestamp="1227001990" jumptime="00:45:49">thank you, bye</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="53:09" timestamp="1227001990" jumptime="00:45:49">thank you, bye :-)</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="53:17" timestamp="1227001998" jumptime="00:45:49">good bye everybody</chat>
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