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<chat personid="7" time="06:40" timestamp="1116857201" jumptime="00:04:15">Hi all...I seem to be having some technical problems.  Please do not take my lack of communication as anything other than that.  I will attempt to solve the problem.</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="06:59" timestamp="1116857220" jumptime="00:04:34">Thanks, Toni</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="07:06" timestamp="1116857227" jumptime="00:04:41">Soton, do you get the sound?</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="07:43" timestamp="1116857264" jumptime="00:05:18">I&apos;m getting sound now, but it is up and down.</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="11:59" timestamp="1116857520" jumptime="00:09:34">Katrien, your mic volume is too low...</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="13:06" timestamp="1116857587" jumptime="00:10:41">Toni, can you try to talk?</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="13:54" timestamp="1116857635" jumptime="00:11:29">Milos, your volume is low...</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="14:21" timestamp="1116857662" jumptime="00:11:56">now it&apos;s gone ;)</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="14:23" timestamp="1116857664" jumptime="00:11:58">Go ahead, Tonii!</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="14:25" timestamp="1116857666" jumptime="00:12:00">Hi Erik, I am trying.</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="14:53" timestamp="1116857694" jumptime="00:12:28">Type here...I&apos;m not usre whether you could hear me.</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="15:11" timestamp="1116857712" jumptime="00:12:46">yes</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="15:14" timestamp="1116857715" jumptime="00:12:49">yes</chat>
<chat personid="15" time="15:21" timestamp="1116857722" jumptime="00:12:56">improved sound</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="15:37" timestamp="1116857738" jumptime="00:13:12">toni, want to try once more</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="16:36" timestamp="1116857797" jumptime="00:14:11">Sure, I&apos;ll add myself to the queue.</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="16:40" timestamp="1116857801" jumptime="00:14:15">Yes we can hear you</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="16:48" timestamp="1116857809" jumptime="00:14:23">but the problem is my mic</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="17:01" timestamp="1116857822" jumptime="00:14:36">I can hear you, but mic does not work well</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="17:21" timestamp="1116857842" jumptime="00:14:56">toni should be getting the floor?</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="17:43" timestamp="1116857864" jumptime="00:15:18">toni, you;re on!</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="17:44" timestamp="1116857865" jumptime="00:15:19">I can hear maybe every third word.</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="20:14" timestamp="1116858015" jumptime="00:17:49">I will bow out of this meeting and catch up via the notes.  Sorry folks to be a bother.</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="20:42" timestamp="1116858043" jumptime="00:18:17">thanks, Toni! Let me know if you want to try things out before next time!</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="28:30" timestamp="1116858511" jumptime="00:26:05">1992 was after the web ,, but he seems that he was knowing what is going to happen nowadays?! amazing :)</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="28:50" timestamp="1116858531" jumptime="00:26:25">i mean in the field of OHS</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="30:09" timestamp="1116858610" jumptime="00:27:44">I think that instructors were still thinking of how to create material and that till now it is still very difficult to think in reusable objects</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="31:27" timestamp="1116858688" jumptime="00:29:02">I see that instructors (the normal ones, and not the ICT minded) now at last are thinking in more general terms of reuse of learning material</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="31:39" timestamp="1116858700" jumptime="00:29:14">and also think in that way</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="32:28" timestamp="1116858749" jumptime="00:30:03">that means, creating &quot;context-free&quot; material</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="32:41" timestamp="1116858762" jumptime="00:30:16">andrew, your sound is very high</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="33:23" timestamp="1116858804" jumptime="00:30:58">and not repeating the oldfasion traditional f2f lectures in webbased environment</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="34:41" timestamp="1116858882" jumptime="00:32:16">So it is mainly a long implementation time that is required to work with reusable objects</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="38:18" timestamp="1116859099" jumptime="00:35:53">Allard .. excuse me but why do u think context free matrials will enhance interp.?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="39:30" timestamp="1116859171" jumptime="00:37:05">Ok interop. is learning material is interesting when it also can be used in other contexts</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="41:11" timestamp="1116859272" jumptime="00:38:46">The more contextfree a learning object is developed, the more interop. is required</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="42:44" timestamp="1116859365" jumptime="00:40:19">So do u have an idea how to develop context free LO?</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="44:38" timestamp="1116859479" jumptime="00:42:13">yes del.ico.us is a good social bookmarking system</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="45:00" timestamp="1116859501" jumptime="00:42:35">del.icio.us</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="45:29" timestamp="1116859530" jumptime="00:43:04">u can get some knowldge about how people tag things!</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="49:34" timestamp="1116859775" jumptime="00:47:09">yes the new google tech.called My search History</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="49:49" timestamp="1116859790" jumptime="00:47:24">where it keeps track of ur search </chat>
<chat personid="3" time="51:05" timestamp="1116859866" jumptime="00:48:40">Q. to u Erik y did u choose this paper in particular?</chat>
<chat personid="15" time="51:16" timestamp="1116859877" jumptime="00:48:51">erik, could not hear you</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="51:18" timestamp="1116859879" jumptime="00:48:53">Yes, Soton, I did :)</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="51:27" timestamp="1116859888" jumptime="00:49:02">Stefan Sobernig: you&apos;re on!</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:02:18" timestamp="1116860539" jumptime="00:59:53">someone else should react first :)</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="01:04:30" timestamp="1116860671" jumptime="01:02:05">standardising sequencing e.g. :)</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:06:36" timestamp="1116860797" jumptime="01:04:11">it is more standardizing how you describe a sequence</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:06:43" timestamp="1116860804" jumptime="01:04:18">sorry if this is too pedantic</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="01:11:38" timestamp="1116861099" jumptime="01:09:13">no, I fully agree (sorry for expressing me so fuzzily ;)</chat>
<chat personid="16" time="01:15:16" timestamp="1116861317" jumptime="01:12:51">Hi, can someone post an url to the slides of these presentations?</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:15:39" timestamp="1116861340" jumptime="01:13:14">http://cordra.net/cordra/information/presentations/2005/www2005/www20050510.ppt</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:16:02" timestamp="1116861363" jumptime="01:13:37">see also http://ariadne.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/mt/blogs/ErikLog/archives/001179.html for my blog on the workshoop</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="01:24:15" timestamp="1116861856" jumptime="01:21:50">they will be published in a special issue of an IFETS magazine.</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="01:25:08" timestamp="1116861909" jumptime="01:22:43">they are available:</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="01:25:09" timestamp="1116861910" jumptime="01:22:44">http://www.l3s.de/~olmedilla/events/schedule.html</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="01:26:55" timestamp="1116862016" jumptime="01:24:30">simple insert interface?</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="01:28:17" timestamp="1116862098" jumptime="01:25:49">bye!</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:28:24" timestamp="1116862105" jumptime="01:25:49">a la prochaine!</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:28:31" timestamp="1116862112" jumptime="01:25:49">Bye... Thanks!</chat>
<chat personid="10" time="01:28:35" timestamp="1116862116" jumptime="01:25:49">Thanks Erik and all, Bye!</chat>
<chat personid="15" time="01:28:38" timestamp="1116862119" jumptime="01:25:49">bye</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:28:41" timestamp="1116862122" jumptime="01:25:49">bye</chat>
<chat personid="11" time="01:28:46" timestamp="1116862127" jumptime="01:25:49">bye</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="01:28:54" timestamp="1116862135" jumptime="01:25:49">Bye!</chat>
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