http://fm.ea-tel.eu/flashmedia/flashmeeting/fm7717_f335e9-7717 http://fm.ea-tel.eu/fm/memo.php?pwd=f335e9-7717 http://fm.ea-tel.eu/public lomi 0:4711:0 116:1173:0 1328:2016:0 2256:4709:0 378:531:0 553:2196:0 2234:4323:0 458:2103:0 1086:4719:0 hi, sorry for being later, had a meeting here at the CSI glad to have you here, Fridolin! you're fine don't hear you no sound here either still no sound i am attending with a PC with no audio but I can listen. I will stay 30 mins. yes stefano ceri tried to unsuccessfully connect margit's camera I'm trying to learn from you. excellent changes in LOM org structure, relation to DCMI, yes yes Apologies for late arrival. Laptop problems! when referring to the semantic web, is there a preferred reference standard? ok - I recently became interested in WSMO and wondered whether there is any connection. Thanks sorry. whenever something complicated happens with flash (Pete Johnston joined) XP crashes. Might happen again relation to "intelligent objects", as this is a track in the current IST call better now here too Just for your Info. I found the WSMO architecture very rich and it seems to be backed by EU with lots of projects. We are extending WebML-WebRatio (our application design environment) to generate WSMO annotations. But I think here we need much more basic stuff. I agree on Mikael's position. My understanding is that we need to make sure that DCMI can act as the common metamodel for DC AND LOM. How much is this a political or technical issue? must go now. Bye! Yes hi Touch wood, my browser seems to be surviving people's coming and going! I'm on Linux now CSI has only a thin line fine with me ah, ok BNFs ;) question: is "simplicity king" or "complexity" ;) Q: Hierarchical cs. flat s/cs/vs ? what's s/cs/vs? Q: "LOM-style" Datatype vs. property ranges Q: extensibility and modularity Fridolin: I wanted to say Hierarchical *vs.* Flat Q: Element set vs. extensibility Q: application profile sharability oops: share-ability ;) identity of resources and identity of elements identity of values too meta-meta-data? I think Mikael intended resources to include "values" explain sharability? how quickly and easily can I share updates in the meta-data sets i.e. implications for replication, partial updates, ... Q: combining elements non-traditional meta-data (e.g. attention) Q: combining elements = grammar? DC2007 = late August/start September this year in (Singapore) me too btw: will have to leave in 10 minutes of course, we should make clear that this is not just a forum but that we want to be very practical interms of producing a wiki and a document in the end yes thanks :) would prefer May or April 16-20 weekly/bi-weekly? right I can't do Monday 16 April, but can do any other day that week I'm CET both good Thursday 19 April is good for me we might have an a-learning flashmeeting on that date sounds ok, but maybe a little late anyway? no, sorry, week earlier 19th, 14:00 Berlin,Vienna is good yes right fine so let's try to have some asynch work until then yes Yes collect references to earlier work pasting stuff into the wiki collecting questions mailing list is ok Yes re mailing list or does the wiki offer notification services? don't mind all ok please no yahoo group -- very slow Yes fine re Google group unless there's any list me can reuse? wp04? or ieeedcmi? i'm sorry, i will have to leave, could you please put me on the list which you decide on? see you later I was going to suggest IEEDCMI TF list (Jiscmail) too bye ok - fridolin, will send out an email bit later today it's archived, too works for me Thurs 3 May good for me =3 may, yes qwiki, like that ;-) any other questions? http://www.eurozine.com/articles/2007-03-12-pautasso-xx.html DCMI stresses application profiles DCMI plans to provide a more formal definition of application profiles DCMI abstract model LOM and DCMI integrate DCMI deeper into the semantic web world