http://fm.ea-tel.eu/flashmedia/flashmeeting/fm6944_ebcbcf-6944 http://fm.ea-tel.eu/fm/memo.php?pwd=ebcbcf-6944 http://fm.ea-tel.eu/public In the series of FlashMeetings on Gap Analysis for the ProLearn Roadmap, we're happy to invite you for a LOMI workshop on the theme of: "Everyone should be able to learn anything at anytime at anyplace.” lomi prolearn 0:6150:0 2702:4286:0 4305:9177:0 2720:9178:0 2859:9178:0 2888:3289:0 3352:7637:0 3080:3129:0 3551:6340:0 3701:7365:0 hello everyone happy New Year 2007 see you in one minute, I go for a coffee... ;-) hello everyone and a happy new year ok :) Hi Erik Tapio just called and he will join Great = let's wait two more minutes then :-) Just to update you with the next flash meetings: VS4 22 of Jan, VS1,VS6 26 of Jan, and VS5 1 Feb. These will conclude the flash meetings hi again, I am back with my tea... Hi Ambjörn, your camera is not focused... We were thinking with Tapio to have a face to face meeting to summarize things on February 8th in London. Vision statement raporteurs meeting. Is it possible for you Erik? we can also prepare for the Prolearn review Hi Daniel. how about you. can you make it for the 8th in London. one day meeting? Vana, who should be involved in this meeting in London? the vs raportuers One day? Go early morning, all day long meeting, and back in the night? Looks interesting... Hi Daniel 11:00 CET is the proposed time or February 11 great yes The 8th is good for me, also the 12th sorry I had some video/audio hardware probelems and needed to re-boot - result audio works but no video :-( Hi Tapio Hi Tapio, no problem, we can enjoy your text and audio there is also some noise Tapio hi margit OK - I can hear you OK Hi Margit THANKS hi! No time I tried to upload some files but did not work... Daniel - please consider that we have been on Holidays - I tried the wiki before christmas and it works Hi Margit Vana, I´ll check it we need a collaboration space - and I think wiki is just fine right you are Erik! Now you sound muvh better Tapio sound much better now, Tapio! I managed to change the audio settings :) :-) see it right place. it is a mistake yes Wayne addressed the issue during the athens symposium in Dec2005 - his presentation is online, Vana, please reming´d us of the URL @ Daniel, can you pl. send me the link again from the wiki pl.? I have just reconfirm that all of you have editing rights at the working area with the wiki (http://moodle.learningnetworks.org/course/view.php?id=50). Margit (and anybody else), I cannot give you the rights until you register yourself first. Once you are in, I promote you ;-) thanks! http://www.dat.demokritos.gr/pl the url with Waynes' slides Daniel - I did register, but forgot the ID & passwd - I asked the systems to send me an e-mail about 30 minutes ago - nothing here yet one sec, Tapio Originally the statement was ?any one? but after the Athens symposium and the discussion with Wayne we change it to ?every one? Prolearn is targetting the KNOWLEDGEWORKERS - they are not everyone ?!?! Tapio. Solved. Your password is the same than your login. First time, you will be requested to change it. Let me know if you have any further problem elderly ... THese are all "handicapped" many dimensions of handicap I agree with Erik and this is specifically addressed to VS 6 (equal opportuinities to learning) socal, financial, cultural, ... digital divide dimensions I agree I agree too Thanks Daniel - I am in again :-) an information network and tools that reaches "every" person and "every" person can also contribute to this information network http://www.dat.demokritos.gr/pl That's right! Making everyone a knowledge worker ? Who is not a KW ? access issue Otherwise there will be no Knowledge Society KW = Prosumer of Knowledge Knowledge worker is someone who doesn't just consume knowledge but reflects and contributes back Prosumer Also a creator? Of course Creative Kleaning Inc. To create and to provide info back/review/contribution is not the same. What do you mean: Creator or Contributor? we lost you Erik - in the middle of your sentence to daniel: nobody creates from scratch therefor, i don't see difference between creation and contribution Erik. Right. But creation as a starting point or contribution as a feedback provider (backfront) is not the same. And the difference is the drive of each I AGREE 100% with Ambjörn right! we are digesting your comment ;-) you were cut out at the end, Tapio please repeat Tapio Every one I think also implies the specific individual. Just me still missing a bit on the statement the individual restrictions to anything, anytime and anyplace! I am really sorry, but I need to go now to another meeting - they already waiting for me by tapio! CIAO ANY/EVERYBODY BTW, your volume is rather low, Daniel. Not too bad, but you may want to crank it up a bit... heard you fine! So, I need names and emails of the reporters to enroll them up Vana, could you please provide them? yes I will Daniel thanks ok, I agree when is the deliverable formally due april you can also make a WP meeting one day before if you would like i need to teach on the Tuesday of the evaluation week o.k. that's a point fine not a good strategy! Unfortunately I have to leave now. I need to pick up my new passport. Theofanis will be still here to follow up. Bye everyone ciao, Vana, and thanks Sure, that´s my idea, I will start right today and we can make it richer step by step... fine with me i need to leave ... - Daniel pl. enrolle me in the wiki - just registered ready, Margit... by! This is VERY interesting - sorry I have to go... see you Erik good talk yep, I totally agree thanks still is a draft you know? the ethernal question about the learning thresold and the way to reach it... yes I got it sorry, I didn´t get it. All these are books that you have of that you read or you are aware of? fine maybe that is the point. I didn´t read your stuff for these last ten days I´ll do and I will win a beer... I bet it! where is the authors´ list? 11? amazing, indeed? and no TV ok ok yes I am also reading the D1.10, until when do I have to provide back with some thoughts? good I´ll do it next week Sure, it is D2.6... modelling... I can provide something on that also... fine 26th 8th I think so one day is feasible I think so Thank you both, the same I´ll do... A beer deserves it You too, thanks