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<description>The first of four Professor Presentations during the Fall 2006 semester.  Presentation by Dr. Dave Merrill from the USU campus.  For more information go to - itsacast.blogspot.com  Both the presentation and the recording are under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 2.5 license.</description>
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<chat personid="1" time="00:17" timestamp="1161280818" jumptime="00:00:00">Welcome to everyone!</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="00:29" timestamp="1161280830" jumptime="00:00:00">Dr. Merrill is here and we are setting up the camera</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:08" timestamp="1161280869" jumptime="00:00:00">If you have any specific question for Dave, go ahead and send them to me via chat</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="04:34" timestamp="1161281075" jumptime="00:00:00">Hello from SLC my good people...</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="04:36" timestamp="1161281077" jumptime="00:00:00">Marie, if there&apos;s anything I can do to help let me know.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="06:13" timestamp="1161281174" jumptime="00:00:00">hi from Wisconsin...getting chilly up here</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="07:10" timestamp="1161281231" jumptime="00:00:00">can we send private emails to individual users? If so, how?</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="09:08" timestamp="1161281349" jumptime="00:00:00">Anyone further away than Wisconson?</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="09:19" timestamp="1161281360" jumptime="00:00:00">Wisconsin**</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="09:49" timestamp="1161281390" jumptime="00:00:00">New Hampshire</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="10:19" timestamp="1161281420" jumptime="00:00:00">bob, if a user is signed in (registered) then when you click on their picture (or lack thereof) a small icon with a T appears in the corner and you can send them a private message that way</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="10:24" timestamp="1161281425" jumptime="00:00:00">I meand, private &quot;messages&quot; (through this system)...</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="10:34" timestamp="1161281435" jumptime="00:00:00">los angeles</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="10:38" timestamp="1161281439" jumptime="00:00:00">Ok, got it.</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="11:04" timestamp="1161281465" jumptime="00:00:00">NH might be the winner</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="11:28" timestamp="1161281489" jumptime="00:00:00">the ones with green names are the ones that are registered</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="12:03" timestamp="1161281524" jumptime="00:00:00">but the sender of the message has to be logged in too, right?</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="12:11" timestamp="1161281532" jumptime="00:00:00">I think so</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="15:34" timestamp="1161281735" jumptime="00:00:00">Another question: can we enlarge a selected user&apos;s thumbnail, so that we see that image in the larger screen?</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="17:14" timestamp="1161281835" jumptime="00:00:00">bob, I can do it by clicking on the image...then it enlarges to fill the right side of the screen</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="17:22" timestamp="1161281843" jumptime="00:00:00">Mindy, webcams may be more common to those who engage in distance learning, online collaboration, etc. Many ISDers still do faculty development, stand-up training, etc...</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="18:09" timestamp="1161281890" jumptime="00:00:00">thumbnail size may be another feature for registered users...</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="18:17" timestamp="1161281898" jumptime="00:00:00">that&apos;s true bob</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="23:35" timestamp="1161282216" jumptime="00:00:00">post those URLs in the URL tab please</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="24:11" timestamp="1161282252" jumptime="00:00:00">so, I&apos;ve put the previous copies of the presention on the urls tab</chat>
<chat personid="17" time="24:27" timestamp="1161282268" jumptime="00:00:00">M is writing book chapters and starting Florida in Spring</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="29:23" timestamp="1161282564" jumptime="00:03:51">i tried to go to the URL posted and it doesn&apos;t work - i get file not found error on my browser</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="30:40" timestamp="1161282641" jumptime="00:05:08">same result here, mindy</chat>
<chat personid="17" time="30:40" timestamp="1161282641" jumptime="00:05:08">the powerpoint is online</chat>
<chat personid="17" time="30:57" timestamp="1161282658" jumptime="00:05:25">working on the URL</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="31:01" timestamp="1161282662" jumptime="00:05:29">ok</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="31:33" timestamp="1161282694" jumptime="00:06:01">i was at aect last week and there was a huge lack of &quot;Show Me&quot; in most of the presentations</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="32:07" timestamp="1161282728" jumptime="00:06:35">i know a lot of elementary school teachers who don&apos;t &quot;show me&quot; -they get all mixed up in the cool themes and creativity</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="34:22" timestamp="1161282863" jumptime="00:08:50">maybe at that level &quot;elementary school&quot;, there is a need for the affective component, which the &quot;cool themes&quot; would provide for. With procedural knowledge (e.g., in vocational education), more &quot;show me&quot; may be desirable...</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="34:43" timestamp="1161282884" jumptime="00:09:11">merrill&apos;s site: http://id2.usu.edu/</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="37:46" timestamp="1161283067" jumptime="00:12:14">thanks Aaron</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="38:02" timestamp="1161283083" jumptime="00:12:30">Can we get the URL for what Dr. Merrill is showing on the screen?</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="39:15" timestamp="1161283156" jumptime="00:13:43">some PowerPoints are also at http://cito.byuh.edu/merrill/text/workshops.htm</chat>
<chat personid="17" time="45:05" timestamp="1161283506" jumptime="00:19:33">any questions for Merrill?...let&apos;s start putting them together</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="50:08" timestamp="1161283809" jumptime="00:24:36">but isn&apos;t building an excel spreadsheet MORE than just where to click? is that what he&apos;s saying? you have to know what you want it to do/look like before you start clicking...</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="50:19" timestamp="1161283820" jumptime="00:24:47">Question for Merrill: In the First Principles paper, I don&apos;t remember seeing Gagne in there even though he included &quot;Problem Solving&quot; as a part of Cognitive Strategies. Why no Gagne here?</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="50:53" timestamp="1161283854" jumptime="00:25:21">He would have been a nice addition to First Principles. He didn&apos;t expand on Problem Solving very much but it&apos;s definitely there</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="56:02" timestamp="1161284163" jumptime="00:30:30">what about the cognitive processes and decisions that people make silently in their brain while they are performing a task?</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="56:56" timestamp="1161284217" jumptime="00:31:24">how do you capture and teach that silent stuff that makes somebody really excel at that task?</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="58:48" timestamp="1161284329" jumptime="00:33:16">Was it Larry Linton (the donor)?</chat>
<chat personid="17" time="01:12:55" timestamp="1161285176" jumptime="00:47:23">http://cito.byuh.edu/entrepreneur/main.swf</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="01:14:54" timestamp="1161285295" jumptime="00:49:22">can we make sure that those in the room who ask questions are heard, please?</chat>
<chat personid="17" time="01:15:39" timestamp="1161285340" jumptime="00:50:07">mdavid.merrill@gmail.com</chat>
<chat personid="17" time="01:16:06" timestamp="1161285367" jumptime="00:50:34">he will repeat the questions now</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:16:40" timestamp="1161285401" jumptime="00:51:08">what about the cognitive processes and decisions that people make silently in their brain while they are performing a task?</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:19:32" timestamp="1161285573" jumptime="00:54:00">I&apos;m pretty sure the constructivist paper was measuring &quot;Guided vs Non-Guided&quot; instruction</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:19:43" timestamp="1161285584" jumptime="00:54:11">The non-guided was what didn&apos;t work </chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:21:46" timestamp="1161285707" jumptime="00:56:14">how do you help the students address the What If&apos;s of real world tasks? You are talking about teaching them real world tasks, but every real world task has a some &quot;What If&apos;s?&quot; involved...</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:23:03" timestamp="1161285784" jumptime="00:57:31">It was actually &quot;Pure discovery learning&quot; here&apos;s a url that addresses the study, but doesn&apos;t include the actual study:</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:23:06" timestamp="1161285787" jumptime="00:57:34">http://www.usc.edu/dept/education/news/urbaned04_05/37.pdf</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:23:56" timestamp="1161285837" jumptime="00:58:24">Citation: Mayer, Richard E. (2004). Should There Be a Three-Strikes Rule Against Pure Discovery Learning? The Case for Guided Methods of Instruction.  American Psychologist, 59, No 1, 14-19.</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:24:36" timestamp="1161285877" jumptime="00:59:04">It seems to me that his First Principles doesn&apos;t address the actual &quot;thinking processes&quot;, just steps in a task. I know the steps are important, but there is so much more that is more important in learning and especially in intrinsic motivation.</chat>
<chat personid="17" time="01:25:43" timestamp="1161285944" jumptime="01:00:11">the ? being asked is close to your question Mindy</chat>
<chat personid="17" time="01:28:07" timestamp="1161286088" jumptime="01:02:35">Mindy - is this covering your ?</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:29:46" timestamp="1161286187" jumptime="01:04:14">so is he address just the absolutely necessaries of learning something? just like improving Trivial Pursuit Education, but still not addressing actually revolutionizing instruction and making it really really memorable?</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:33:25" timestamp="1161286406" jumptime="01:07:53">Question for Merrill: In the First Principles paper, I don&apos;t remember seeing Gagne in there even though he included &quot;Problem Solving&quot; as a part of Cognitive Strategies. Why no Gagne here?</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:34:43" timestamp="1161286484" jumptime="01:09:11">i&apos;m wondering more about really digging down deep and getting students to look at the decisions that they need to make to choose the right tasks or address the What If&apos;s?</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:37:05" timestamp="1161286626" jumptime="01:11:33">that&apos;s what i&apos;m talkign about...</chat>
<chat personid="23" time="01:37:32" timestamp="1161286653" jumptime="01:12:00">(Preston)I&apos;m trying, Aaron, tough to get a question in with this crowd ;)</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:39:32" timestamp="1161286773" jumptime="01:14:00">I think that you have to teach them how to address the What If&apos;s along with giving them 3 of the 1000 examples.</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:43:59" timestamp="1161287040" jumptime="01:18:27">AHHH!!! So close!!! Keep at it, Preston</chat>
<chat personid="23" time="01:45:35" timestamp="1161287136" jumptime="01:20:03">there&apos;s your question, Aaron</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:45:41" timestamp="1161287142" jumptime="01:20:09">Tell him I&apos;ll send him the paper I wrote.</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:45:56" timestamp="1161287157" jumptime="01:20:24">It&apos;s publication-worthy</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:46:27" timestamp="1161287188" jumptime="01:20:55">aaron, i would like to see your paper</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:46:58" timestamp="1161287219" jumptime="01:21:26">thank you </chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:47:08" timestamp="1161287229" jumptime="01:21:36">this software is cool</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="01:47:28" timestamp="1161287249" jumptime="01:21:55">aaron, if you go to the Xtra tab, you can upload it here</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:47:37" timestamp="1161287258" jumptime="01:21:55">could you send it to me too, Aaron?  cblakes@gmail.com</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:47:54" timestamp="1161287275" jumptime="01:21:55">mc_johnson@byu.edu</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="01:48:07" timestamp="1161287288" jumptime="01:21:55">then anyone who wants to download it, will be able to</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:48:45" timestamp="1161287326" jumptime="01:21:55">i have to do a little formatting (it&apos;s part of a larger paper). if you want it, i&apos;d rather email it</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="01:49:01" timestamp="1161287342" jumptime="01:21:55">aqcannon@gmail.com please</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:49:16" timestamp="1161287357" jumptime="01:21:55">You should be able to download the ppt from the xtra tab</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:50:20" timestamp="1161287421" jumptime="01:21:55">Merrill&apos;s email if you didn&apos;t catch it earlier is, mdavid.merrill@gmail.com</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:50:39" timestamp="1161287440" jumptime="01:21:55">Did ya&apos;ll find this worthwhile?</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:50:45" timestamp="1161287446" jumptime="01:21:55">excellent</chat>
<chat personid="23" time="01:50:54" timestamp="1161287455" jumptime="01:21:55">yes</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="01:50:55" timestamp="1161287456" jumptime="01:21:55">definitely</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:50:59" timestamp="1161287460" jumptime="01:21:55">yes. thanks</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:51:03" timestamp="1161287464" jumptime="01:21:55">cool, thank you</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:51:13" timestamp="1161287474" jumptime="01:21:55">see you next week :-)</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="01:51:17" timestamp="1161287478" jumptime="01:21:55">bye</chat>
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