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<description>Online seminar to discuss the issues and technical details of implementation of a harvesting search engine for educational resources in mathematics</description>
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<keyword>jem</keyword>
<keyword>oai phm</keyword>
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<chats>
<chat personid="0" time="01:11" timestamp="1202718672" jumptime="00:00:03">http://elisi.physik.uni-oldenburg.de/lili2_2/broker.php?action=lili</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:21" timestamp="1202718682" jumptime="00:00:13">http://elisi.physik.uni-oldenburg.de/lili2_2/broker.php?action=lili</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:06" timestamp="1202718727" jumptime="00:00:58">Hallo Olga, I can hear you very well.</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="02:21" timestamp="1202718742" jumptime="00:01:13">hi Olga, i can hear too</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="03:21" timestamp="1202718802" jumptime="00:02:13">Where can I register to the meeting?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="04:17" timestamp="1202718858" jumptime="00:03:09">I sent the URL of LiLi. Can you see it?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="05:57" timestamp="1202718958" jumptime="00:04:49">yes Julika</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="06:05" timestamp="1202718966" jumptime="00:04:57">yes</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="06:07" timestamp="1202718968" jumptime="00:04:59">agenda is ok for me</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="06:08" timestamp="1202718969" jumptime="00:05:00">Yes, I agree</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="06:17" timestamp="1202718978" jumptime="00:05:09">yes</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="11:10" timestamp="1202719271" jumptime="00:10:02">Antti can you hear us?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="11:14" timestamp="1202719275" jumptime="00:10:06">hmmm how do i choose myself as the speaker</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="11:19" timestamp="1202719280" jumptime="00:10:11">yes i hear you</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="11:24" timestamp="1202719285" jumptime="00:10:16">press &quot;start broadcasting&quot;</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="11:26" timestamp="1202719287" jumptime="00:10:18">start broadcasting</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="11:35" timestamp="1202719296" jumptime="00:10:27">hello ebs</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="11:52" timestamp="1202719313" jumptime="00:10:44">i cannot see that anywhere</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="12:05" timestamp="1202719326" jumptime="00:10:57">under the small video</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="12:26" timestamp="1202719347" jumptime="00:11:18">Ebs, there is a chat </chat>
<chat personid="2" time="12:51" timestamp="1202719372" jumptime="00:11:43">yes</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="12:56" timestamp="1202719377" jumptime="00:11:48">yes, i hear you fine and see julika only.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="12:57" timestamp="1202719378" jumptime="00:11:49">Fine, Antti</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="13:13" timestamp="1202719394" jumptime="00:12:05">Sorry. I have changes computer</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="13:20" timestamp="1202719401" jumptime="00:12:12">No camera here</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="13:49" timestamp="1202719430" jumptime="00:12:41">ok</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="16:11" timestamp="1202719572" jumptime="00:15:03">yes Julika</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="16:15" timestamp="1202719576" jumptime="00:15:07">yes</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="16:16" timestamp="1202719577" jumptime="00:15:08">i see it</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="16:17" timestamp="1202719578" jumptime="00:15:09">it opened a tab in my browser</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="16:19" timestamp="1202719580" jumptime="00:15:11"> ebs : yes</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="18:29" timestamp="1202719710" jumptime="00:17:21">its ok</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="19:44" timestamp="1202719785" jumptime="00:18:36">is the harvest search doing a query on remote repositories realtime?</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="20:22" timestamp="1202719823" jumptime="00:19:14">(because you suggested we import lom records from remote repositories)</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="20:56" timestamp="1202719857" jumptime="00:19:48">ok</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="21:25" timestamp="1202719886" jumptime="00:20:17">how do you bootstrap the harvest engine? (i am very ignorant of harvesting)</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="23:31" timestamp="1202720012" jumptime="00:22:23">i get a strong double echo of the tone; downgrade the amplification?</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="24:17" timestamp="1202720058" jumptime="00:23:09">ok</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="25:28" timestamp="1202720129" jumptime="00:24:20">Olga, what happens now`?</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="26:55" timestamp="1202720216" jumptime="00:25:47">so, not only lom records</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="27:06" timestamp="1202720227" jumptime="00:25:58">not specifically learning rsosurces</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="27:16" timestamp="1202720237" jumptime="00:26:08">ok!</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="28:35" timestamp="1202720316" jumptime="00:27:27">i am very impressed actually</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="28:38" timestamp="1202720319" jumptime="00:27:30">on what basis does it select those contents?</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="28:58" timestamp="1202720339" jumptime="00:27:50">:) same as mine</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="29:09" timestamp="1202720350" jumptime="00:28:01">how did you collect the first set of pages</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="29:26" timestamp="1202720367" jumptime="00:28:18">i see</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="29:58" timestamp="1202720399" jumptime="00:28:50">so, can you make a new version which starts, say from the JEM partners?</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="30:08" timestamp="1202720409" jumptime="00:29:00">shure</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="30:46" timestamp="1202720447" jumptime="00:29:38">so, we could make a JEM form which collects links from the JEM community</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="31:26" timestamp="1202720487" jumptime="00:30:18">what protocol is lili using to return the results?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="31:47" timestamp="1202720508" jumptime="00:30:39">does it try to guess information about the actual contents in order to create metadata and classify it?</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="31:51" timestamp="1202720512" jumptime="00:30:43">machine starts trained crawling from these on a html -list given entry points </chat>
<chat personid="3" time="31:52" timestamp="1202720513" jumptime="00:30:44">(if we have to implement it in drupal)</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="32:29" timestamp="1202720550" jumptime="00:31:21">i know, i guess i need to search for a harvest module</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="32:57" timestamp="1202720578" jumptime="00:31:49">yes - i now at least understand the difference</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="33:29" timestamp="1202720610" jumptime="00:32:21">julika, technically did you use a php harvest library?</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="34:09" timestamp="1202720650" jumptime="00:33:01">ok</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="34:24" timestamp="1202720665" jumptime="00:33:16">i think i understand somewhat</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="34:29" timestamp="1202720670" jumptime="00:33:21"> here, &apos;harvest&apos; is the name of a search crawling software.</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="34:55" timestamp="1202720696" jumptime="00:33:47">your lili repository has oai data export?</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="35:23" timestamp="1202720724" jumptime="00:34:15">ok</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="36:39" timestamp="1202720800" jumptime="00:35:31">thanks matti</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="36:47" timestamp="1202720808" jumptime="00:35:39">sorry julika, i interrupted you</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="37:08" timestamp="1202720829" jumptime="00:36:00">drupal is our content management system - is not an archive</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="37:15" timestamp="1202720836" jumptime="00:36:07"> oai service provider implementation should be easier than OAI data provider</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="37:36" timestamp="1202720857" jumptime="00:36:28">in drupal you can add software modules to add functionalities</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="38:00" timestamp="1202720881" jumptime="00:36:52">my feeling is that we can use somehow the lili harvest</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="38:04" timestamp="1202720885" jumptime="00:36:56">what is the difference between service provider and data provider?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="38:21" timestamp="1202720902" jumptime="00:37:13">ok</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="38:51" timestamp="1202720932" jumptime="00:37:43">www.openarchives.org</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="39:18" timestamp="1202720959" jumptime="00:38:10">thanks</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="39:20" timestamp="1202720961" jumptime="00:38:12">i guess JEM would be the service provider</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="39:45" timestamp="1202720986" jumptime="00:38:37">to aggregate the repositories of the partners</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="39:57" timestamp="1202720998" jumptime="00:38:49">yes</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="39:59" timestamp="1202721000" jumptime="00:38:51">any oai-registered OAI-service provider can collect from any of the registered OAI-dataproviders</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="40:12" timestamp="1202721013" jumptime="00:39:04">this is very useful hilf</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="40:53" timestamp="1202721054" jumptime="00:39:45">Any more questions?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="41:31" timestamp="1202721092" jumptime="00:40:23">yes</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="41:31" timestamp="1202721092" jumptime="00:40:23">yes</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="41:32" timestamp="1202721093" jumptime="00:40:24">yes</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="41:51" timestamp="1202721112" jumptime="00:40:43">Not we did not hear you before.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="45:22" timestamp="1202721323" jumptime="00:44:14">Yes, Heinrich Stamerjohanns has written OAI Software</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="45:30" timestamp="1202721331" jumptime="00:44:22">which button?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="45:52" timestamp="1202721353" jumptime="00:44:44">&quot;start broadcasting&quot; on upper right corner of the screen</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="45:57" timestamp="1202721358" jumptime="00:44:49">yes</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="46:03" timestamp="1202721364" jumptime="00:44:55">we hear some breathing</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="46:03" timestamp="1202721364" jumptime="00:44:55">top right there is a button &quot;start broadcasting&quot;</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="46:06" timestamp="1202721367" jumptime="00:44:58">yes</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="46:09" timestamp="1202721370" jumptime="00:45:01">http://www.isn-oldenburg.de/projects/OAD/software.html</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="47:30" timestamp="1202721451" jumptime="00:46:22">Harvest software: http://harvest.sourceforge.net/harvest/doc/index.html </chat>
<chat personid="3" time="48:31" timestamp="1202721512" jumptime="00:47:23">import of lom records would be ok for you</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="48:47" timestamp="1202721528" jumptime="00:47:39">then possibly you have to be data provider</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="48:58" timestamp="1202721539" jumptime="00:47:50">yes!</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="50:08" timestamp="1202721609" jumptime="00:49:00">do you recall if agrega was oai provider?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="50:29" timestamp="1202721630" jumptime="00:49:21">The Drupal OAI-PMH Module http://drupal.org/project/oai2 is based on Heinrich&apos;s software.</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="50:40" timestamp="1202721641" jumptime="00:49:32">yes julika - i know!</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="51:01" timestamp="1202721662" jumptime="00:49:53">yes ebs!</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="51:01" timestamp="1202721662" jumptime="00:49:53">yes</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="51:04" timestamp="1202721665" jumptime="00:49:56">Ebs I hear you well</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="51:05" timestamp="1202721666" jumptime="00:49:57">hi</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="51:07" timestamp="1202721668" jumptime="00:49:59">yea</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="51:46" timestamp="1202721707" jumptime="00:50:38">yes - i think so</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="51:55" timestamp="1202721716" jumptime="00:50:47">right</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="52:13" timestamp="1202721734" jumptime="00:51:05">at the jem portal - we service the data from the partners</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="55:00" timestamp="1202721901" jumptime="00:53:52"> especially Julika, i learn all from here.</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="55:37" timestamp="1202721938" jumptime="00:54:29">any comment?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="55:46" timestamp="1202721947" jumptime="00:54:38">Yes, we are data provider already</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="56:03" timestamp="1202721964" jumptime="00:54:55">next  we need some kind of distributed work plan.</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="56:33" timestamp="1202721994" jumptime="00:55:25">OK</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="57:18" timestamp="1202722039" jumptime="00:56:10">thank you very much!</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="57:37" timestamp="1202722058" jumptime="00:56:29">Thank you!</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="57:41" timestamp="1202722062" jumptime="00:56:29">bye</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="57:43" timestamp="1202722064" jumptime="00:56:29">Bye</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="57:45" timestamp="1202722066" jumptime="00:56:29">Bye</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="57:50" timestamp="1202722071" jumptime="00:56:29">bye</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="57:50" timestamp="1202722071" jumptime="00:56:29">thank you olga for the organization and guiding</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="57:52" timestamp="1202722073" jumptime="00:56:29">bye</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="57:56" timestamp="1202722077" jumptime="00:56:29">bye</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="57:57" timestamp="1202722078" jumptime="00:56:29">next time with slides</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="58:07" timestamp="1202722088" jumptime="00:56:29">yes</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="58:40" timestamp="1202722121" jumptime="00:56:29">ciao julika</chat>
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