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<chat personid="0" time="00:10" timestamp="1158015612" jumptime="00:00:00">Hi, ken</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="00:20" timestamp="1158015622" jumptime="00:00:00">hi</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="00:43" timestamp="1158015645" jumptime="00:00:00">where is john?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="00:56" timestamp="1158015658" jumptime="00:00:00">I think he will be along, just hasn&apos;t logged in yet</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:08" timestamp="1158015670" jumptime="00:00:00">ok</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:16" timestamp="1158015678" jumptime="00:00:00">hi john</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:50" timestamp="1158015712" jumptime="00:00:33">I&apos;m good, thanks.  </chat>
<chat personid="0" time="04:49" timestamp="1158015891" jumptime="00:03:32">yeah, I used to live in a neighborhood like that ;-)</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="05:03" timestamp="1158015905" jumptime="00:03:46">Hello, I&apos;m new to this.  So, I&apos;ll just lurk.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="05:36" timestamp="1158015938" jumptime="00:04:19">welcome!!</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="05:53" timestamp="1158015955" jumptime="00:04:36">Hi, everyone.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="06:12" timestamp="1158015974" jumptime="00:04:55">OR, at least, that&apos;s my story and I&apos;m sticking to it ;-)</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="07:42" timestamp="1158016064" jumptime="00:06:25">SLATE!!</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="08:10" timestamp="1158016092" jumptime="00:06:53">anything fine with me.</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="13:27" timestamp="1158016409" jumptime="00:12:10">for upper sash, do you every use the other type of angle iron, under the sash?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="14:33" timestamp="1158016475" jumptime="00:13:16">i&apos;m waiting to see answer to Marion</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="21:14" timestamp="1158016876" jumptime="00:19:57">Hi, Roger and Denise</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="21:41" timestamp="1158016903" jumptime="00:20:24">Hey, Ralph.  All&apos;s good with us.  How about you?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="21:59" timestamp="1158016921" jumptime="00:20:42">I&apos;m doing well.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="22:22" timestamp="1158016944" jumptime="00:21:05">keep finding more projects to distract me from my windows ;-)</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="22:54" timestamp="1158016976" jumptime="00:21:37">Yeah,  we&apos;re tearing up an old closet and fretting with how to fix the rotted floors.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="23:36" timestamp="1158017018" jumptime="00:22:19">I&apos;m dealing with a slate roof that has been &quot;DPOed&quot;</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="23:57" timestamp="1158017039" jumptime="00:22:40">? DPO</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="24:07" timestamp="1158017049" jumptime="00:22:50">&quot;Dear Prior Owner&quot;</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="24:29" timestamp="1158017071" jumptime="00:23:12">said with a bit of sarcasm ;-)</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="24:50" timestamp="1158017092" jumptime="00:23:33">Sympathies.  We are dealing with a cement fiber roof.  Not as elegant as yours.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="25:36" timestamp="1158017138" jumptime="00:24:19">you haven&apos;t seen my roof - it&apos;s the shed roof over a covered porch.  DPO put in a wood stove, didn&apos;t flash it properly, thought the roof was leaking, and covered it with roofing tar</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="26:53" timestamp="1158017215" jumptime="00:25:36">not Dumb Prior Owner?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="27:17" timestamp="1158017239" jumptime="00:26:00">Dumb, Dear, D**n, fill in your own blank LOL</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="27:42" timestamp="1158017264" jumptime="00:26:25">Ouch.  We have problems due to old age and weather.  Not too bad, just fussy.</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="27:46" timestamp="1158017268" jumptime="00:26:29">mine had a fixation on puttin gfaucet washers in all the electric outlets on the screws</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="28:02" timestamp="1158017284" jumptime="00:26:45">to space them out from the wall?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="29:40" timestamp="1158017382" jumptime="00:28:23">yeah to space out from wall</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="31:10" timestamp="1158017472" jumptime="00:29:53">he put in paneling everywhere and it required washers on the outlets</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="32:06" timestamp="1158017528" jumptime="00:30:49">my guy liked caulk - for everything, everywhere.  Guess roofing cement is sort of like caulking ;-)</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="33:10" timestamp="1158017592" jumptime="00:31:53">roofing cement is a poor man&apos;s caulk</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="33:18" timestamp="1158017600" jumptime="00:32:01">SLATE</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="34:15" timestamp="1158017657" jumptime="00:32:58">The shed roof over my covered porch is slate (like the main roof), but the DPO coated it with roofing cement.  It&apos;s in rough shape, and really needs to be replaced.  Don&apos;t shoot me, i&apos;m planning asphalt shingles</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="35:15" timestamp="1158017717" jumptime="00:33:58">Anyway, I&apos;m trying to salvage as much of the slate as I can, but it&apos;s pretty fragile.  Any suggestions on how to remove them without damaging them?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="36:05" timestamp="1158017767" jumptime="00:34:48">I&apos;m keeping the slate on the main roof - this small roof is on the back side of the house, and really isn&apos;t salvagable, and slate cost is prohibitive</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="37:23" timestamp="1158017845" jumptime="00:36:06">About half the roof is coated with roof cement, so I am starting with those slate.  But I&apos;d like to save the better condition slate</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="38:27" timestamp="1158017909" jumptime="00:37:10">No, I&apos;ve been using a wonderbar, very carefully</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="39:27" timestamp="1158017969" jumptime="00:38:10">Fortunately, the nails don&apos;t seem to be that tight - I&apos;ve been sliding the bar under the edge, lifting slightly to raise the heads, then removing the nails</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="39:38" timestamp="1158017980" jumptime="00:38:21">Ralph, where are you at?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="39:43" timestamp="1158017985" jumptime="00:38:26">So a &quot;good&quot; slate should not be particularly fragile?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="39:48" timestamp="1158017990" jumptime="00:38:31">Western Pennsylvania</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="41:33" timestamp="1158018095" jumptime="00:40:16">Sounds like that  might be most of my problem - punky slate</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="43:26" timestamp="1158018208" jumptime="00:42:09">How would you use that to remove slate, in a way that is safer for the slate than the wonderbar?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="44:19" timestamp="1158018261" jumptime="00:43:02">a slate ripper </chat>
<chat personid="0" time="45:13" timestamp="1158018315" jumptime="00:43:56">will those work on steel nails?  I think my slaters cut corners - no copper nails</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="45:21" timestamp="1158018323" jumptime="00:44:04">You can demo on my slates ;-)</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="46:23" timestamp="1158018385" jumptime="00:45:06">I&apos;ve used one on steel nails</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="47:34" timestamp="1158018456" jumptime="00:46:17">apparently there is a magazine for traditional roofs http://www.traditionalroofing.com/</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="48:20" timestamp="1158018502" jumptime="00:47:03">I unfortunately don&apos;t have a slate ripper - and cost seems prohibitive ($120 or so).  Given the small job, is there an alternative or something I could cobble up?</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="48:49" timestamp="1158018531" jumptime="00:47:32">wow! I didn&apos;t pay that much for mine.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="49:10" timestamp="1158018552" jumptime="00:47:53">did you find it locally, or on the web?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="49:20" timestamp="1158018562" jumptime="00:48:03">yes, top down</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="49:33" timestamp="1158018575" jumptime="00:48:16">New Orleans, hardware store</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="49:44" timestamp="1158018586" jumptime="00:48:27">leaned out the bathroom window, cleared a spot, then climbed out the window</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="53:08" timestamp="1158018790" jumptime="00:51:51">Looked around on the web - found some for $70 or so, still seems high</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="53:17" timestamp="1158018799" jumptime="00:52:00">That&apos;s a good thought</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="53:41" timestamp="1158018823" jumptime="00:52:24">Assuming some of the slate are in good condition, and more than I need, are they marketable?</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="54:39" timestamp="1158018881" jumptime="00:53:22">web site?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="55:46" timestamp="1158018948" jumptime="00:54:29">International Preservation Trades Workshop:   http://www.iptw.org/</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="56:04" timestamp="1158018966" jumptime="00:54:47">thanks</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="56:24" timestamp="1158018986" jumptime="00:55:07">oh well, hoped i could pay for the roof with the salvage</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="57:51" timestamp="1158019073" jumptime="00:56:34">They do - but they are heavy and large, and I don&apos;t think I will need 50 or 100 slate anytime soon.  I am planning to keep enough to maintain the main roof</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="59:49" timestamp="1158019191" jumptime="00:58:32">it is too bad that we canno all hear each other... or is it me?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:00:09" timestamp="1158019211" jumptime="00:58:52">I can here you OK</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="01:01:09" timestamp="1158019271" jumptime="00:59:52">I am dealing with outside rotted sill under tin wrap.  If I rebuild inside and caulk outside, will it hold till spring?</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="01:04:52" timestamp="1158019494" jumptime="01:03:35">tin metal.  Inside sill is gone, I&apos;m replacing it.  </chat>
<chat personid="3" time="01:05:45" timestamp="1158019547" jumptime="01:04:28">Outside will get new wood sill--next spring.</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="01:06:47" timestamp="1158019609" jumptime="01:05:30">Thanks, that&apos;s what I&apos;m planning on.</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="01:09:05" timestamp="1158019747" jumptime="01:07:48">Do you glue that down?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:25:51" timestamp="1158020753" jumptime="01:24:34">Good talking with you all - see you next week</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:25:59" timestamp="1158020761" jumptime="01:24:42">bye bye</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="01:26:09" timestamp="1158020771" jumptime="01:24:52">bye</chat>
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