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<keyword>change modelling</keyword>
<keyword>prolearn</keyword>
<keyword>prolearn academy</keyword>
<keyword>prolearn summer school</keyword>
<keyword>trends modelling</keyword>
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<chat personid="0" time="00:59" timestamp="1175677260" jumptime="00:00:00">Hello everyone</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:06" timestamp="1175677267" jumptime="00:00:00">Hi!</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:12" timestamp="1175677273" jumptime="00:00:00">Hi!</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:13" timestamp="1175677274" jumptime="00:00:00">hi everybody</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:14" timestamp="1175677275" jumptime="00:00:00">Good Morning, my microphone does not seem to be working properly so I will be using the Chat Function to communicate.  Also, I am not using a webcam to save bandwidth. Ashley</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="01:20" timestamp="1175677281" jumptime="00:00:00">Hello.</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:38" timestamp="1175677299" jumptime="00:00:07">yes</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:43" timestamp="1175677304" jumptime="00:00:12">:-)</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:34" timestamp="1175677355" jumptime="00:01:03">Good morning</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="03:20" timestamp="1175677401" jumptime="00:01:49">ok...</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="03:23" timestamp="1175677404" jumptime="00:01:52">ok :)</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="03:24" timestamp="1175677405" jumptime="00:01:53">cu</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="04:12" timestamp="1175677453" jumptime="00:02:41">hello everyone, hello ambjoern</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="04:20" timestamp="1175677461" jumptime="00:02:49">Apologies, my mic is not working either so I will have to use the chat.</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="04:32" timestamp="1175677473" jumptime="00:03:01">k</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="05:18" timestamp="1175677519" jumptime="00:03:47">:-)</chat>
<chat personid="10" time="06:38" timestamp="1175677599" jumptime="00:05:07">hi all</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="06:46" timestamp="1175677607" jumptime="00:05:15">waiting for my activation code</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="08:29" timestamp="1175677710" jumptime="00:06:58">:-)</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="08:38" timestamp="1175677719" jumptime="00:07:07">Yes and I am ENABELING the blocker aiagin</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="12:24" timestamp="1175677945" jumptime="00:10:53">amjoern, we didn&apos;t get the last url....</chat>
<chat personid="11" time="12:52" timestamp="1175677973" jumptime="00:11:21">Hi everybody</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="12:56" timestamp="1175677977" jumptime="00:11:25">nope</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="13:00" timestamp="1175677981" jumptime="00:11:29">but its fine</chat>
<chat personid="10" time="13:00" timestamp="1175677981" jumptime="00:11:29">the last url did not reach me </chat>
<chat personid="8" time="13:02" timestamp="1175677983" jumptime="00:11:31">i remeber</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="13:09" timestamp="1175677990" jumptime="00:11:38">remember it from last year</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="13:44" timestamp="1175678025" jumptime="00:12:13">yes, first one was great. just browsing the confolio</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="13:47" timestamp="1175678028" jumptime="00:12:16">no</chat>
<chat personid="10" time="13:51" timestamp="1175678032" jumptime="00:12:20">no</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="13:54" timestamp="1175678035" jumptime="00:12:23">still waiting for the second</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="14:06" timestamp="1175678047" jumptime="00:12:35">hey, can anyone post it in the chat?</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="14:19" timestamp="1175678060" jumptime="00:12:48">http://knowgate.nada.kth.se:8080/portfolio/main?cmd=open&amp;manifest=amb&amp;uri=urn:x-knowgate.nada.kth.se:amb:2125</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="14:27" timestamp="1175678068" jumptime="00:12:56">Communicative modeling course</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="14:29" timestamp="1175678070" jumptime="00:12:58">http://knowgate.nada.kth.se:8080/portfolio/main?cmd=open&amp;manifest=amb&amp;uri=urn%3Ax-knowgate.nada.kth.se%3Aamb%3A2125</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="15:07" timestamp="1175678108" jumptime="00:13:36">Hi every one! (I have not video and microphone today</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="15:16" timestamp="1175678117" jumptime="00:13:45">only to see and hear you)</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="15:24" timestamp="1175678125" jumptime="00:13:53">ciao</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="16:21" timestamp="1175678182" jumptime="00:14:50">Hi, my research interests include games-based learning, communities of practice and learning communities.  The cluster I am interested in would be Collaborative Learning.  thanks Ashley</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="17:18" timestamp="1175678239" jumptime="00:15:47">@philipp: did you look for flights already?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="17:34" timestamp="1175678255" jumptime="00:16:03">My colleague Thomas Hainey is not able to come to the meeting but he too will be interested in Collaborative Learning.</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="17:39" timestamp="1175678260" jumptime="00:16:08">I have to use the chat.</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="17:43" timestamp="1175678264" jumptime="00:16:12">@Patrick: yes. didn&apos;t book it up to now</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="17:56" timestamp="1175678277" jumptime="00:16:25">Hello everyone. My name is Eddie Walsh. I am a PhD student in Trinity College Dublin. In the Knowledge and Data Engineering Group.</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="18:19" timestamp="1175678300" jumptime="00:16:48">flights are a pain here: normally very cheap but around these days quite expensive :(</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="18:19" timestamp="1175678300" jumptime="00:16:48">My research area is user model interoperability.I am specifically examining the exchange of user model info between learning services. For example, using user info in LMS to enhance personalisation in external services.</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="18:49" timestamp="1175678330" jumptime="00:17:18">I think the personalised learning cluster would be best for mebut would also be interested in a user/learner modelling cluster if it was to be formed.</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="20:27" timestamp="1175678428" jumptime="00:18:56">i&apos;m happy about it</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="23:49" timestamp="1175678630" jumptime="00:22:18">just got my activation code</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="24:05" timestamp="1175678646" jumptime="00:22:34">will sign in after introductions are over</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="27:14" timestamp="1175678835" jumptime="00:25:43">I forgot to mention that my colleague Doreen Mann (who can&apos;t join today) will most probably choose the cluster Web 2.0 / Social Software...</chat>
<chat personid="11" time="28:14" timestamp="1175678895" jumptime="00:26:43">I wish to be in KM cluster</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="28:16" timestamp="1175678897" jumptime="00:26:45">@philipp: should we meet with doreen this afternoon for a caf?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="28:35" timestamp="1175678916" jumptime="00:27:04">@Patrick: she&apos;s on holidays ;) but we can meet nevertheless</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="28:41" timestamp="1175678922" jumptime="00:27:10">great</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="29:41" timestamp="1175678982" jumptime="00:28:10">hi, do you all see me on your window</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="29:42" timestamp="1175678983" jumptime="00:28:11">KM cluster does not exist yet. You want to create it?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="30:44" timestamp="1175679045" jumptime="00:29:13">Nouha, can you hear me?</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="30:47" timestamp="1175679048" jumptime="00:29:16">I was talking </chat>
<chat personid="11" time="31:07" timestamp="1175679068" jumptime="00:29:36">only if there is more students for km cluster</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="31:21" timestamp="1175679082" jumptime="00:29:50">No sound from Nouha</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="31:27" timestamp="1175679088" jumptime="00:29:56">I can not hear anything</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="31:27" timestamp="1175679088" jumptime="00:29:56">I cant hear you Nouha ;-(</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="31:54" timestamp="1175679115" jumptime="00:30:23">better typing</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="32:06" timestamp="1175679127" jumptime="00:30:35">ok so i will write </chat>
<chat personid="9" time="32:25" timestamp="1175679146" jumptime="00:30:54">so I am now a phd student in ebusiness management </chat>
<chat personid="9" time="32:34" timestamp="1175679155" jumptime="00:31:03">at the university of Salento</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="32:46" timestamp="1175679167" jumptime="00:31:15">named university of Lecce before</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="32:55" timestamp="1175679176" jumptime="00:31:24">My current interest is</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="33:06" timestamp="1175679187" jumptime="00:31:35">in collaborative knowledge network </chat>
<chat personid="9" time="33:22" timestamp="1175679203" jumptime="00:31:51">there is a picture of me in my personal confolio </chat>
<chat personid="9" time="34:01" timestamp="1175679242" jumptime="00:32:30">yes but i think that collaborative learning, and personalized learning seems very interesting </chat>
<chat personid="9" time="34:15" timestamp="1175679256" jumptime="00:32:44">i&apos;d choose them </chat>
<chat personid="9" time="34:27" timestamp="1175679268" jumptime="00:32:56">and also the web 2.0 and social software</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="34:28" timestamp="1175679269" jumptime="00:32:57">I too have a picture in my confolio and a personal folder with some information about my interests.</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="34:39" timestamp="1175679280" jumptime="00:33:08">Hi! Mi name is Linda Castañeda, I?m pedagogist, I?m doing my PhD in an Inter-universitary program supported by 5 universities in Spain and I?m working at the University of Murcia.I?m interesting in educational models and didactics questions of new kinds of on-line learning processes (models, tools, process of collaboration, evaluation, relationships, etc.).</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="35:23" timestamp="1175679324" jumptime="00:33:52">thanks</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="35:38" timestamp="1175679339" jumptime="00:34:07">nop</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="35:58" timestamp="1175679359" jumptime="00:34:27">Not sound</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="35:59" timestamp="1175679360" jumptime="00:34:28">Can you here me?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="36:12" timestamp="1175679373" jumptime="00:34:41">nope</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="36:16" timestamp="1175679377" jumptime="00:34:45">Ok my mike does not seem to work, so I&apos;d better try writing</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="36:17" timestamp="1175679378" jumptime="00:34:46">no sound</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="36:33" timestamp="1175679394" jumptime="00:35:02">Hi everybody</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="36:44" timestamp="1175679405" jumptime="00:35:13">I would like also to participate to the web.2 and social software cluster </chat>
<chat personid="13" time="38:02" timestamp="1175679483" jumptime="00:36:31">Sorry</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="38:22" timestamp="1175679503" jumptime="00:36:51">no worries</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="38:26" timestamp="1175679507" jumptime="00:36:55">I am interested in Personalized learning. Also in collaborative learning</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="38:56" timestamp="1175679537" jumptime="00:37:25">My research interests are adaptive learning and educational data mining.</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="39:10" timestamp="1175679551" jumptime="00:37:39">Sorry, that message didn&apos;t appear before</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="39:24" timestamp="1175679565" jumptime="00:37:53">I am working at the Universidad Carlos III de Madrid</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="39:35" timestamp="1175679576" jumptime="00:38:04">Yes, from Spain</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="39:51" timestamp="1175679592" jumptime="00:38:20">What is your background?</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="39:56" timestamp="1175679597" jumptime="00:38:25">Yes, exactly</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="40:06" timestamp="1175679607" jumptime="00:38:35">tracking users and inteactions</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="40:43" timestamp="1175679644" jumptime="00:39:12">brb in an official standpoint</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="40:57" timestamp="1175679658" jumptime="00:39:26">Ambjorn - I think I would also be interested in the Personalised Learning Cluster.</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="41:07" timestamp="1175679668" jumptime="00:39:36">@ Manuela, Maybe we can arrange to go together to the summer school at Fréjus.</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="41:19" timestamp="1175679680" jumptime="00:39:48">I think I would also be interested in Web2.0 cluster</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="41:31" timestamp="1175679692" jumptime="00:40:00">yes, I&apos;m going there from milano</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="41:35" timestamp="1175679696" jumptime="00:40:04">@Manuela, I am in Torino for my internship now.</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="42:01" timestamp="1175679722" jumptime="00:40:30">I would also be interested in the Collaborative Learning Cluster</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="42:59" timestamp="1175679780" jumptime="00:41:28">@Nouha, perfect, let&apos;s talk about it by e-mail</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="44:14" timestamp="1175679855" jumptime="00:42:43">@Manuela, ok here is my email then: nouha.taifi@ebms.unile.it</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="44:43" timestamp="1175679884" jumptime="00:43:12">Hello everybody! Due to timetable I could not join today earlier than now.</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="45:06" timestamp="1175679907" jumptime="00:43:35">hi Lauri</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="45:11" timestamp="1175679912" jumptime="00:43:40">Hello Lauri</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="45:16" timestamp="1175679917" jumptime="00:43:45">hello</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="45:20" timestamp="1175679921" jumptime="00:43:49">hi lauri</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="45:27" timestamp="1175679928" jumptime="00:43:56">Hi Lauri</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="45:33" timestamp="1175679934" jumptime="00:44:02">hi lauri </chat>
<chat personid="0" time="45:48" timestamp="1175679949" jumptime="00:44:17">Conzilla online</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="45:49" timestamp="1175679950" jumptime="00:44:18">http://www.conzilla.org/wiki/Online/Main </chat>
<chat personid="11" time="47:05" timestamp="1175680026" jumptime="00:45:34">does somebody interested in learning design?</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="47:15" timestamp="1175680036" jumptime="00:45:44">yes, I&apos;m</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="47:21" timestamp="1175680042" jumptime="00:45:50">yes me too</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="47:21" timestamp="1175680042" jumptime="00:45:50">exactly</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="47:29" timestamp="1175680050" jumptime="00:45:58">In my research group there are some people working on it</chat>
<chat personid="10" time="47:30" timestamp="1175680051" jumptime="00:45:59">Me partially</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="47:42" timestamp="1175680063" jumptime="00:46:11">I am also interested in interface issues, especially related to music interface</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="47:49" timestamp="1175680070" jumptime="00:46:18">ME TOO</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="47:52" timestamp="1175680073" jumptime="00:46:21">I have not worked on it too much yet, but could be interested</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="48:00" timestamp="1175680081" jumptime="00:46:29">(sorry about capitals)</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="48:05" timestamp="1175680086" jumptime="00:46:34">Is there anybody interested in FLOSS/Open Source - this too is an element of my research.</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="48:06" timestamp="1175680087" jumptime="00:46:35">mobile or other device interfaces</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="48:25" timestamp="1175680106" jumptime="00:46:54">I am also interested in music :) What do you understand about music interfaces?</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="48:58" timestamp="1175680139" jumptime="00:47:27">I would like to make music interface for children with learning difficulties</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="49:20" timestamp="1175680161" jumptime="00:47:49">:-)</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="49:23" timestamp="1175680164" jumptime="00:47:52">I would like to illustrate for ex. concept maps with melodies and chords</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="49:30" timestamp="1175680171" jumptime="00:47:59">sounds great</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="50:05" timestamp="1175680206" jumptime="00:48:34">raquel what is your relation to music</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="50:15" timestamp="1175680216" jumptime="00:48:44">so what about parts one and two?</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="50:17" timestamp="1175680218" jumptime="00:48:46">you mean something similar to the classic mnemotecnic trick of using music for memorizing concepts ?</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="51:31" timestamp="1175680292" jumptime="00:50:00">I have studied music for several years, mainly when I was a child. I&apos;ve studied piano and guitar (don&apos;t ask me to play, please, I&apos;m really bad), and know solfeo theory</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="51:46" timestamp="1175680307" jumptime="00:50:15">raquel, perhaps also memrorizing but at the moment i aim to illustrate structures of knowledge with similar structures of music</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="51:56" timestamp="1175680317" jumptime="00:50:25">I&apos;m leaving bye bye </chat>
<chat personid="8" time="52:03" timestamp="1175680324" jumptime="00:50:32">bye</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="52:03" timestamp="1175680324" jumptime="00:50:32">that seems really interesting</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="52:13" timestamp="1175680334" jumptime="00:50:42">bye maurice</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="52:19" timestamp="1175680340" jumptime="00:50:48">are you musician?</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="52:29" timestamp="1175680350" jumptime="00:50:58">bye maurice</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="52:37" timestamp="1175680358" jumptime="00:51:06">bye</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="53:12" timestamp="1175680393" jumptime="00:51:41">Opening the slides doesn&apos;t work with me anymore... :(</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="53:22" timestamp="1175680403" jumptime="00:51:51">http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/flashboard.php?lc=7939</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="53:24" timestamp="1175680405" jumptime="00:51:53">The construct vs. test theory is very interesting </chat>
<chat personid="8" time="53:37" timestamp="1175680418" jumptime="00:52:06">or go to ambjoerns portfolio</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="53:44" timestamp="1175680425" jumptime="00:52:13">raquel, well I am an amateur, I still play in student symphony orchestra and some choirs</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="54:27" timestamp="1175680468" jumptime="00:52:56">@Patrick: Thanks</chat>
<chat personid="13" time="54:42" timestamp="1175680483" jumptime="00:53:11">@Lauri: You are really more expert than me. Perhaps we could continue talking about this by mail. My email contact: rcrespo@it.uc3m.es</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="55:16" timestamp="1175680517" jumptime="00:53:45">thanks raquel</chat>
<chat personid="11" time="58:26" timestamp="1175680707" jumptime="00:56:55">Hi Manuela, you said that your interests are in LD</chat>
<chat personid="11" time="58:38" timestamp="1175680719" jumptime="00:57:07">what is your research?</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="59:26" timestamp="1175680767" jumptime="00:57:55">@Malinka, my interests refer to cultural differences in designing and teaching online</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="59:53" timestamp="1175680794" jumptime="00:58:22">@Malinka, focusing on the european context</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:01:07" timestamp="1175680868" jumptime="00:59:36">@Malinka, what about you?</chat>
<chat personid="11" time="01:01:14" timestamp="1175680875" jumptime="00:59:43">it is iteresting, because I work on LD in engineering education</chat>
<chat personid="11" time="01:02:23" timestamp="1175680944" jumptime="01:00:52">how to help ekgineers to prepare LD</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:02:46" timestamp="1175680967" jumptime="01:01:15">very interesting malinka, we can discuss about it!</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="01:02:58" timestamp="1175680979" jumptime="01:01:27">betterr practices</chat>
<chat personid="11" time="01:03:05" timestamp="1175680986" jumptime="01:01:34">how to automate and support their UoL design process</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:03:26" timestamp="1175681007" jumptime="01:01:55">@Ambjörn, you mean learning by doing ? </chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:03:52" timestamp="1175681033" jumptime="01:02:21">Cris Argyris</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:04:01" timestamp="1175681042" jumptime="01:02:30">Double-loop learning</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="01:04:13" timestamp="1175681054" jumptime="01:02:42">I thing to learn from mistakes is not neccesary to do anything</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:04:18" timestamp="1175681059" jumptime="01:02:47">@Ambjörn, yes I know that exactly.</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="01:04:26" timestamp="1175681067" jumptime="01:02:55">you can have some mistakes only thinking and reflexing</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:04:36" timestamp="1175681077" jumptime="01:03:05">Peter Senge</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:04:44" timestamp="1175681085" jumptime="01:03:13">The fifth discipline</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="01:04:47" timestamp="1175681088" jumptime="01:03:16">the fith discipline</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:04:52" timestamp="1175681093" jumptime="01:03:21">yes</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:05:05" timestamp="1175681106" jumptime="01:03:34">Mental modeling</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:06:26" timestamp="1175681187" jumptime="01:04:55">UML</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:06:46" timestamp="1175681207" jumptime="01:05:15">ULM</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:06:55" timestamp="1175681216" jumptime="01:05:24">Unified Language Modeling</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:15:42" timestamp="1175681743" jumptime="01:14:11">@Ambjörn, are you creating a project around this to gather case studies?</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:19:48" timestamp="1175681989" jumptime="01:18:17">@Ambjörn, automatization has a negative effect on low-skilled labor.</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="01:27:12" timestamp="1175682433" jumptime="01:25:41">would it be possible to continue chatting for ex. twice a week before the summer course begins?</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:27:50" timestamp="1175682471" jumptime="01:26:19">good idea</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="01:28:00" timestamp="1175682481" jumptime="01:26:29">we could have a certain times each week and all could join</chat>
<chat personid="10" time="01:28:07" timestamp="1175682488" jumptime="01:26:36">I&apos;m for it</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:28:13" timestamp="1175682494" jumptime="01:26:42">me too</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:28:21" timestamp="1175682502" jumptime="01:26:50">That would be a good idea and would help to get to know each other before the summer school. What time would be best?</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="01:28:31" timestamp="1175682512" jumptime="01:27:00">same time as this week?</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:28:39" timestamp="1175682520" jumptime="01:27:08">ok</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:28:40" timestamp="1175682521" jumptime="01:27:09">Yes sounds good to me.</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="01:28:42" timestamp="1175682523" jumptime="01:27:11">bye everyone. see you in frejus.</chat>
<chat personid="10" time="01:28:43" timestamp="1175682524" jumptime="01:27:12">Works for me</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:28:48" timestamp="1175682529" jumptime="01:27:17">Bye everyone.</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:28:50" timestamp="1175682531" jumptime="01:27:19">ciao</chat>
<chat personid="11" time="01:28:51" timestamp="1175682532" jumptime="01:27:20">bye</chat>
<chat personid="12" time="01:28:52" timestamp="1175682533" jumptime="01:27:21">thanka  lot Ambjorn</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="01:28:53" timestamp="1175682534" jumptime="01:27:22">Bye.</chat>
<chat personid="14" time="01:28:53" timestamp="1175682534" jumptime="01:27:22">bye</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:28:54" timestamp="1175682535" jumptime="01:27:23">bye :-)</chat>
<chat personid="10" time="01:28:56" timestamp="1175682537" jumptime="01:27:25">buy</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:28:57" timestamp="1175682538" jumptime="01:27:26">thanks</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="01:28:59" timestamp="1175682540" jumptime="01:27:27">thx ambjoern</chat>
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