http://fm.ea-tel.eu/flashmedia/flashmeeting/fm10322_741744-10322 http://fm.ea-tel.eu/fm/memo.php?pwd=741744-10322 http://fm.ea-tel.eu/public Discussion Training Workshop Berlin eu project venus venus training workshop 0:5427:0 106:3184:1 3185:3193:0 3194:5433:1 153:535:0 1675:4266:0 4274:5412:0 721:5410:0 1408:1559:0 1498:2845:0 1645:5405:0 1772:5413:0 3042:5963:0 Guten Tag, Prof. Seibt Sie können mich nicht sehen, da ich Probleme mit meiner Kamera habe. hallo, grüße von gero und herrn seibt Grüße auch an Gero. hast du ein mikofon? Leider nur in der Kamera. Ich suche noch, vielleicht finde ich ein zweites. Könnt Ihr mal mit Start Broadcasting einen Soundcheck machen? Perfekt! fein Falls Fragen an mich gestellt werden, kann ich Sie per Chat beantworten. *sie ok nicht viel los hier ;) In zwei Minuten wird es voll. Greetings to Leuven. ellow hallo Yes. we wait for the others I will check the flights and tell you the next days, the times i stay in berlin. and i will do my best to assist you as a moderator of a table, if dietrich cannot come. something is not working Hello Everybody I had some technical problem Sorry for delay sorry i am late I am sorry, my camera is not working and the mic is integrated in it. but i will answer questions with chat. ! ok Hello! Hello AnnaKaarina hello AnnaKaarina i agree witht the program. regarding your suggestion: it is a good idea to send us the material of lisbon, it will be for sure a help to preprare the slides for the Cologne Part (local issues like using the technology of the venus Project, organisational ascpects). How many slides did you use for this point of the agenda in lisboa? rule of thumb is 1 slide per two minutes... but that seems not applied to Lisboa thanx mathy, nice to see you again. sorry not to see you, but chat is OK too i have to leave for a minute. Back again. did that 76 include M M's slides? looks like no we should discuss now, what main cognitions, we took out of the projekt and choose them as the main topics fot the round table. maybe you could tell us something from the handbook regarding this. sorry, my connection was interrupted. we have workers here in the office. are we all agreeing on definitions of elearning for example? we are talking about Venus as a suggestion for the round table: we could combine both aspects (giving results and findings of the project but also integrate the opinion of theparticipants, which are also experts) by discussing and building up a possible implementation case of the venus technology in the e-learning strategy of some of the participants. The formal way to achieve that could be a dicussion followed by a shor presentation of the findings of the round table.(with a short break between perhaps). this will give us also feedback, which could be integrated as a result for the final version of the handbook. ok yes. the formulation is a good fundation for the discussions. what do you suggest as the formal circumstances of the round table: will it be only discussion, or a short presentation followed by disccussion.? how can you assure that these people will then give relevant comments and evaluation on a model that they don 't really know in detail? please, could you send us this plan of the method by email. how will be the relative size of both groups (one, which didnt hear the seminar in the morning and the other one)? should we not provide a number of very concrete topics likke this one then for discussion rather than vaguely discussing the model? will the short presentaiton at the beginning of the round table be from one speaker for all tables, or do you plan to let the moderator of the tables do it for their table? moderator for their table we will have 20 minutes for the discussion (10 minutes for the summer for the ones who were absent in the morning). We could actually formulate a few of very well defined topics/questions for the partecipants so their will be only a short introduction (few sentences), but no slides for this parts a re necessary, or possible? i just suggested something off the top of my head, we can think together of bettre discussion topics I am sure by email? not now.. by email, yes a topic- suggestion:How to achieve the perfect mix of pull and push technoligies which are applied in e-learning scenearios but, venus IS one e-l senario! tehre is push and pull in Venus ... if you introduce this well it could be relevant thanx mathy! ;-) yuo re welcome Christof heheh we re also pedagogically involved !!! we are not barabarians yes, i meant it in a pedagigical way! Right C ! are you sure? Well I 'll ask my studnets thanks and bye bye to all Good bye to all! it ok For us it is ok also see you in Berlin ! Thank you Bieke, CU in Berlin. bye bye, thanks bieke and thanks to all! bye! Good bye Good Bye all