http://fm.ea-tel.eu/flashmedia/flashmeeting/fm22458_6d7ff3-22458 http://fm.ea-tel.eu/fm/memo.php?pwd=6d7ff3-22458 http://fm.ea-tel.eu/public This session includes the following program: - User Profile: Interface Definition for User Modeling and Learning Profile Services (A. Nussbaumer) - WP3 Brainstorming and Roadmapping (K. Verbert) 2010 camp developer role 0:5376:0 6113:6140:0 46:1048:0 727:6991:0 1073:4546:0 1119:5667:0 sorry we had issues with the network and missed the beginning of the session very interesting point about the differentiation about hard and soft goal Katrien and AC, you are welcome to join the discussion, if you want to speak thanks most of my concerns are already raised....like goal eliciting and overstating goals for example: Goal 1: I want to learn Java.......Goal2: I want to learn Java in 1 hr secoding Ralf's comment competent developer vs skillful developer..... the later seems higher order now, we will start flexible session, discussion in groups ok the url? Thanks for the session.