http://fm.ea-tel.eu/flashmedia/flashmeeting/fm7458_69124d-7458 http://fm.ea-tel.eu/fm/memo.php?pwd=69124d-7458 http://fm.ea-tel.eu/public EVO2007 - Digital Gaming and Open Webpublishing Week 6 - Round Table discussion Digital Gaming, Web 2.0, Podcasting, blogging and Web Publishing in general blogging efl english esl evo2007 gaming podcasting web 2.0 0:1024:1 1025:1039:0 1040:6992:1 9:6216:0 130:6090:0 134:12541:0 502:799:0 2015:3138:0 3217:5452:0 5533:6045:0 1106:6088:0 1262:3023:0 1490:6776:0 4407:6654:0 6555:11051:0 8193:12529:0 11128:12529:0 11614:12529:0 Hi Geoff Hi Geoff Hi Anne! My sound looks erratic How do you know? Oh yes I see just looking at the pattern on the sound bar to the right of the main speaker window Hi Graham How do I speak? Yes the view of my garden I can hear you yes Brilliant Sorry, didn't know we were going to be using video. I'm on the wrong computer I see you now Anne Sorry Geoff - I should have made that clearer Could you hear me? No problem, Graham now it's working I can hear you! yes What fun! I had all the kids lined up for this morning and none of them are on line yet I have e-mailed then the details so I am hoping they come on any minute Hope so! Justtesting my audio through other applications great No, I havent Right lol Hi nick on vista :( on vista! buggy Blimey, brave boy! lol no choice hi hi anne , alice, geoff Hey nick yes That was fine no headset yes we can hear, could do with a bit more volume special speaker phone for the pc Yes, a bit of volume maybe changing headset much better thx alice so sad! oops, we seem to have lost Nick I'll change computer That would be great! I've never been, Is SL free? You will use the digital mailing list Mail list? www.secondlife.com Yes! much better Anne! Excellent! Hi Carla hi carla! Quite well. How are you recording? Audacity? it's automatically recorded, alice (Flashmeeting does that for you) hi Joe http://sambaefl.podomatic.com/ Hi Joe Hi I'm in Brussels at the eTwinning conference with the creators of Flashmeeting really? That's fabulous They can chat with you about it in a moment that would be great you can podcast using MTN (http://mtn.e2bn.net) Hurrah! sounds very useful document camera can be connected to it also? http://geofftaylor.wikispaces.com/ welcome back Nick I think it's an excellent model for a class podcast geoff sound breaking up . nice idea! having some surprise, as in any class! maybe just the net though Interviewing is important because listening is just as key as speaking I can hear OK and asking the right questions! mine is breaking too And in an interview there is built in comprehensible input for them to listen to spoke too soon plust motivation to listen no sound now lost it too Oh sorry about the audio Oh sorry hi Joe! Hi didn't Anne win an award? yes she did yah! Anne audio is fine http://www.absolutely-intercultural.com/ jeff, i forgot to mention that little by little some teachers are getting involved due to the example of my students Great carla! that's great, Carla your audio is clear as a bell ... the coughing too! yes, geoff. it's not a smooth process, but Erika and I are trying... mixed groups? some of the time That would be great, Anne! with my adult groups, basic ones, i started with a very simple task. Just recording a question to an international guest. They loved it! We have seven students at the moment. Anne, if you need any help, I'm around... have you ever done the story circle for digital storytelling Anne? Audio is much less scary than video! http://pod-efl.wikispaces.com/AbsolutleyIntercultural Congratulations on the EduBlogs award! Yes, congratulations! doing stuff about storytelling but what is a digital st circle? Thanks! Alice That was great it is a technique used by the center of digital storytelling at Berkeley Im off now - but just to say you can download h Do you have the URL of the other one? Joe Lambert's technique the flashmeeting replays what about for little language learners (ages 6-12?) what's out there for them? http://myths.e2bn.net Laine try bobsprankle.com http://mylcpodcasts.blogspot.com/ Anne ... you can find out about the story circle here .... http://www.storycenter.org/cookbook.html Laine, my friend erika has worked with the kids to talk about their pets and she had an international guest interacting with them. They loved it! that sounds great, Carla erikacruvinel.podomatic.com especially when you get the guest to skype in live (or even async using skype voicemail) yes, for class, this is the ideal way of using a podcast like yours how do you divide podcasts into labelled segments - use audacity to do it, right? Yes, like on an iPod, you can get chapters in the enhanced feeds bringing in guests is always cool lost sound anne no, I can still hear nick, I always have international collaborators and guests to my class blogs. cool If you have Garageband, you can do it, and have hyperlinks yes but is only viewable in iTunes or iPod thank you for your suggestions re:kids! Yes, maybe so Nick lost sound completely will logout and in I teach teachers and they teach kids did you ask me, graham? Ok, I see yes, Laine this sounds wonderful!!! Yes, sounds good have you introduced many teachers to podcasting, Laine? lots of paper work in US Ewan MacInosh in Scotland is an expert in kids podcasting Yes, Bob Sprankle is an excellent example MacIntosh sorry I can hear you yes yes es Me too! http://www.bobsprankle.com/blog/ did you hear me? I think i am done. We did hear I heard you fine ok great thanks, gs! If I'm lucky, there may be some connecting tomorrow Carla, I remember when you started your podcast, I enjoyed the fun and energy of it all! My students really liked your little "intro" video of web 2.0 tools - short and clear! thankyou, Laine I think I am moving them in a good direction now , so it is not just coming from me! it wa very good Graham Unless you are Sarah Lilburn! Graham, have you seen carnival in Brazil in second life??? for SL you need Frapps, do you have it? is bee involved??? yes, Nick - I have it, and have started using it cool:) SLURL Carla? http://www.fraps.com/ - this can be used for grabbing video i'll look for it! video on computer? yes, video somebody was asking me about that only a few weeks ago http://secondlife.reuters.com/stories/2007/02/20/cb2ca412b18c932a324d188d09f2300c5fb0402b/ nobody likes their own voice.....when they hear it, right? From what I have heard the sound quality on your podcast is really pretty good - even now you sound really clear fricatives are the first to go maybe turn up the treble Anne, that predictive listening skill is a very good point what about bandwidth, Anne? is part of this because we are all committed to using free tools? good point Laine good point, constant adjustments needed! Abs Int is a voluntary enterprise so I like everything to be free as much as possible for students,free yes Laine Do you record direct to a computer, Geoff? though I have paid for a lot in the end! what I mean is that for a price, one can have higher quality, right? not that we should but just that it is technologically possible. http://www.gigavox.com/levelatorDownload/ Yes, I record straight to my laptop gs - could we just have like a little blogroll style list of the urls mentioned today and plopped somewhere on evo 07? Yes, it is for windows and macs good idea, Laine - we could go back to the recording and copy them, then paste them into the wiki I agree - they don't have all that time or patience to do that can you copy n paste the whole chat Laine? I missed earlier on yes or can someone ...Graham ;-) it'll all be available later, with the recording, Nick we can put that into YG yes, but rather than search for each url - a list is so helpful! this way gets the urls as hyperlinks http://bobsprankle.com/bitbybit_wordpress/?cat=6 what is the url for alice's podcast? I've just posted it Geoff Oh, sorry, got it lol Apologies for my too mobile webcam Can't fix it anywhere stably hello! hi valetin hi Valentina http://www.bobsprankle.com/bitbybit Looks great Alice Hi everyone ;-) I'll listen to it, Alice Hi Valentina for podcasting on Win .. castbaster makes life easy lol lol Typical students! Castblaster typical! not too worry we should get a life! nick, what does castblaster do? eactly nick! I din't get on too well with castblaster couldn't control the timings well enough haven't gone back to it which is a shame as I paid for it I have wasted money on podcasting tools had to queue things up with CB Wow, interesting story, Graham WoW = World of Warcraft (lol) lol - unintentional very apt! for parents = world of what! negotiating meaning I lust after various bits of kit, but apart from free software tools like Levelator, I'm using the same tools I started with a year ago, Anne my son is 6 and he plays playstation all the time and I'm sure he learned a lot from it and , although he doesn't speak english, he's doing fine at school here in the us. He can understand what is being asked! I suffer from background hiss on my laptop so that led me to various ill-adviced puchases audacity is still very good for editing what games does he play, Carla? Student WOW web page http://lowursin.googlepages.com/guildbanklottery all kinds, Graham! Of course, in my house they love Win 11 not new computer but all kinds, really, graham! I have two boys and a husband, so can you imagine when the TV is on! Edurol? Edirol plug in a mixer board R-09 I think lol, Carla - I'm sure you don't get to pick any programmes don't load the CPU I tried disconnecting from mains Edirol Oh right... :( lol http://www.edirol.com/ yes, your mic does sound very good on this This is a new mike actually Geoff: That is a great podcast I have learned so much from him! quick def for "kit" please... Squeezed it out of my people at work after I won the edublogs award! equipment, Laine Yes alice Yes, there's always more to do, Anne Me too Graham http://www.maccast.com/ very good point, Geoff a content analysis of this flashmeeting would reveal a constant mix of technology issues/pedagogical issues/resources/modelling - a good mix yes, that's interesting Laine very good point, Anne I have done that in Bubbleshare - photos with audio description, right? as a show maybe next year we shoud do an EVO on digital stoyrytelling Yes, laine, it's brilliant I think tappping into what they already do/use is a great strategy because it mixes familiar and unfamiliar schemata - a big factor in learning Very interesting teaching idea what was said? you can add, annotate, edit -- give explanations later etc., right? a lot in your absence! a little no sound, nick Can't hear. no sound? yes Yes yes yes http://www.storycenter.org/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/digitalstorytelling/ is it videonation BBC That sounds great Nick there are some brilliant videos but they key point is a significant personal event the story circle is key http://www.bbc.co.uk/videonation/ Great stuff! Where is this chat posted? Me too Thank you! has anyone heard of using proverbs as the basis for the digitalstorytelling project? - gives them a structure to build the story around and universal ideas, concepts Very nice! Sounds interesting Laine Joe's book that's a great idea - i was thinking of doing something similar with podcasts no - just an idea I need to duck out for a few minutes, I apologize about my students. See you in SL I am always looking for scaffolds for learners see you in SL Alice - thanks for coming bye Alice Bye all And thanks as always! alice - whre are you based? Maine, USA bye alice You? what time are we do in SL btw? OK. thanks - i'll be in touch NY due not do alicebarr@gmail.com Laine bye, everybody. thanks for the great discussion bye bye if anybody needs any help, i'm around and with some time available now! what is happening there? SL at what time today? Bye Carla! I never went to SL! Thought it was 17:00 Ok time tomorrow? 17.00GMT tomorrow Thanks Bye bye, guys. great - see you then btw are the green checks because somebody voted on something? that's right, Laine yes, that's what it says Graham Right, I guess I should be going too. Thanks everyone. Nice talking with you OK, Thanks a lot for joining us, Geoff Thanks for hosting Graham Thanks Anne bye Anne why are you foxenduk? Hope to see you and your students online Anne? Because my name is Fox, I live in Denmark but am originally fromt the UK Thanks so much Graham! coooooooolllll!!! Thank you, Geoff - it's been a pleasure very clever name ;-) Foxdenuk yes, sorry, of course Bye everyone Bye Geoff! bye, Geoff Had to think of something because all the obvious ones were taken in Yahoo years ago I have to pop out and do some shopping (aaah) will there be more going on later? I'll do my best to get my group to Bardwell Rd Gweoff thanks for organizing this Graham (gs) I can't go shopping I'm snowed in! Yes, thanks Graham (and thanks for the eflbridges links) My first successful flashmeeting and I actually had my "kit" this time The king of flashmeetings! That's OK OK - i'll listen to the beginning that's great! I'll pop back then (if I can) great - see you later Maybe you can take a break - 3hours is a long synchronous session! yes! gs please make a note to send the info on the Chinese Thanks again everyone Bye!! yes - take a break---we will also do that Leave a sign "be back soon" i will do some work on my blog How do you get moderation power in Flashmeeting? i.e to set up one up He changed the settings I think flashmeeting needs more features to make it really worthwhile it's great for what it does do If you go to settings on prefs and look at video Oh yes, he was saying he could do that, we'll see you can pick which video stream and which audio streeam to use if you have several going at the same tome You can get your own password i'll email and see - that would be great Just ask the OU if i'm not lucky i would love to borrow yours sure, no problem Scott was saying it's going to be paid for soon that's useful hello Peter! i just went to the flashboard and could not do anything there -- is it active? yes yes I've never mastered the flashboard yes, i'm sorry I have to go but i'll try to come back soon - good stuff! thanks bye for now Perhaps it is not available yet tried to upload a file, did I? ok bye gs Bye all bye anne Hey this is Mrs. Barrs late joining student Hi Jonas Hey there hi Jonas http://www.flo-joe.co.uk/index.htm http://splendidspeaking.podomatic.com/ yes I can hear you everything is fine Yep volume is great Much better now fine Oh, how out of date! The new one, the Burning Crusade came out! I got that opening day, January 16 :). Parden... continue wow Last I heard, it was 8 million. But since the Burning Crusade came out, the numbers may have risen Does a realm coreespond to a country Ventrilo ah, yes, I've used Ventrilo Teamspeak http://www.ventrilo.com/ http://www.goteamspeak.com/ lol http://lowursin.googlepages.com/home so, there is a lot of trust involved here in the guild What does PvP mean? ok So how long has it taken you to get to the level of Guild Master? Lords of War Microphone :) haha Why have you had to kick people out of the guild? I have students who are 10 who play WoW very good point You can't kill someone of your own faction, can you? If you duel, do they die? lol Microphone :) This has been a fascinating introduction to something I knew nothing about. Sadly I have to put my daughter to bed. Thanks, Pete My pleasure!! Hey there That's correct hello Jonas and Graham hi Scott Ehrm.. my turn? Or Scott, you want to say someting? Oh yea:) Cool cool! did you figure out how to link back to a timepoint of the archive Graham? no, I didn't but I'd heard it was possible pong! very different from WoW haha yea great what's the URL, Scott? http://play-nintendo.com/podcast/ US - Ursin That's my server not the blue screen! Short description of how link to a point on the timeline in FlashMeeting: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/memo/ what about podcasts? very good point There's a very popular vlog that appears on blip.tv called Women of Warcraft http://womenofwarcraft.blip.tv/ sounds great You're welcome. that's right Sorry I've joined so late + have been silent, just catching up on what's been going on Is this Alice? Hi A Ann from Bilbao Hi Ann Ohh my mistake, Hello there Ann! Hi all hello Ann Thanks for the plug any link for the Flash app? URL www.ydemas.com/finglies thanks Ann but we're just changing server so the site might be down! One more thing: If you're curious about guild life and the social world behind the game World of Warcraft, take a gander at my page every once in a while http://lowursin.googlepages.com/home thanks Jonas You're very welcome! yes, thanks Jonas! 30 seconds to go thanks Ann (this reminds me of server reset time) thanks scott bye everyone Everyone yells ITS THE APOCOLYPSE