http://fm.ea-tel.eu/flashmedia/flashmeeting/fm18170_28db8f-18170 http://fm.ea-tel.eu/fm/memo.php?pwd=28db8f-18170 http://fm.ea-tel.eu/public videoblogging vlog 0:327:0 438:951:0 1032:1639:0 1842:2619:0 2675:3047:0 3104:3180:0 76:7348:0 99:10629:0 136:425:0 962:989:0 1013:7608:0 7673:10653:0 158:10641:0 230:8330:0 330:609:0 909:1158:0 2034:6798:1 6799:6809:0 6810:7245:1 590:606:0 830:3659:0 843:1002:0 1051:4826:0 1163:10653:0 1410:1829:0 6923:8714:0 2265:10653:0 2289:10643:0 2636:7915:0 8956:9592:0 2967:3579:0 3778:8930:0 3513:8226:0 3600:3786:0 4769:6023:0 3749:7582:0 7601:10652:0 4410:10653:0 4457:5254:0 5291:5390:0 5483:5645:0 5664:5784:0 5797:7066:0 7078:9422:0 5125:7019:0 5247:10653:0 6703:6944:0 7096:10652:0 9263:9376:0 hey michael and lauren hey hey jay! hi stan http://www.pineplainsviews.com/ this is Stan's site hey Jim hi jim http://www.pineplainsviews.com/history/howe-they-farmed hey, i just realized which jim that is! HI JIM! hi deirdre! this is cool topic to mee hey, Markus! diedre, you still in italy? nope, been out since March 2008 where are you now? yep may have to duck ack out and restart my mac, hang on i heard you looks like we lost stan speak jim you're on hi hi! hey Jim, talk again hey Lauren hey jay you doing good in Philly? yep, all is good. hey there! jen! yea! it's jen hi ryanne! jen and her new nice apartment! hello making really crappy crap crap bids vids wait, did you move again jen? true @lauren - yes, in march not since yeah right, ok. didn't know if jay meant new new :-) but jay and i are on the same connection that might be why bybye verdi breaking up forzen guy verdi are you uploaidng video? what's the topic right now?? what's the question? hi steve! Yay! hi markus TOPIC: at the moment, we were just sharing stan's site and talking about what we are doing @jen there wasn't really a question, just starting talking. why people and orgs are hesitant to use online video we're just talking: i was saying i was surprised how slow people are to tell stories volume is a bit low for lauren krystian! where's your camera? ok hi steve, good volume Im not sure what you look like welcome Krystian i'm in AE rendering so don't want the computer to go crazy with the camera on what is 12seconds? i've been hearing about that recently twitvid http://twitvid.com 12seconds.tv i think. 12 second capped videos, kind of like flickr for video by the way, i liked Steve's recent videos here: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/yelp_brings_first_us_augmented_reality_to_iphone_s.php thaks jay! thaks can't type Hi Tom, welcome good point hello all hey Tom want to introduce yourself? just click "join queue here's that video Stan referred to: http://ryanishungry.com/2009/01/21/home-birth-diy-labor-and-delivery/ Vid Conf Tip: you can add anotations to this conference by typing @ @ note (without the spaces) what is an anotation? be back later :) @markus - are you sure? (ha) problems with my Macbook - no video til I get it to behave what Stan is discussing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_cinema i always feel it was a precursor to videoblogging hi patrick (lauren and jen both think about Temple and the lack of specialization there not leading to anything really either) hah yo Sandyman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Alpert anyine can jump in we don't mind! keep talking :) hey paul! hello markus et al before digital channels of dessimination came about, only select few found reasons to publish and spend effort (read: $) expressing their thoughts. good one its a series of fades Valdez! bits are a fad :) Hey Patrick--do you think more people will get better at storytelling skills? flickr video is only 1.5 muintes max definately. he's coming i think http://12seconds.tv/channel/ruperthowe hey valdez! hello both better at telling, and tools will simplify it (12 seconds) I thought Semanal was a big success, not everyone (including myself) posted video every week, but it was certainly exciting seeing content over content every day, really motivating and strong community wize. you don't have to, but people have become less patient (see studies of average clip length on tv) workflow video was great I have to keep explaining to the corporate world: there IS NO canonical length for online video. If the subject matters to the audience and you're telling the "story" well, make it as long as you need to. http://reports.graymattergravy.com/2009/08/24/the-making-of-talkbot/ yeah, Semanal was cool. be interesting to look back in 10 years. http://semanal.org/ people posted a video a week for the whole of 2008 the problem isn't long videos, its that people post uneditted videos that are "bad", and make it tough to trust a lengthy video won't be a waste of time. long videos have high corrolation with uneditted ones. Seesmic.com Yeah even 12 second videos can be boring also storage and bandwith costs are down enough the effort to compact videos well has been lost. no sound aaron http://vimeo.com/valdez/videos lemme get my sound fixed http://wreckandsalvage.com/pure-salvage/glenn-beck-beats/ ah i goota go talk amongst yourselves time to go watch a big million multimillion dollar hollywood sellout films with some vloggers have fun jen cool! hi jeffrey jeffrey! Hey...just wanted to say hi! I can't speak or listen, as I'm at a meeting organizing Prop. 8 repeal in California. hey stan, do you keep images continuous on purpose, like f64 photographers shot uncropped images as a statement of intention and design? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Get-Seen-Secrets-Building-Business/dp/0470525460/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251576241&sr=8-1 just ordered it steve hey rupert Hey everyone! I'm in my parents' garden in the country at night :) Rupert! hey rupert and Jeffrey :) hey rupert is it as cold down there as it is up here? Frank Carver! hi guys Patrick, I keep them on the page so that I can intermix with text it keeps the clips shorter that way. no - it's balmy! ...almost there's a bit of a nip in the air tonight sorry stan, I meant videos, not images. paul, don't make the joke i think you're going to make... :) lol @Patrick, now I'm not sure what you mean... nah its just chilly hi rupert and aaron! we are talking about posting long videos, and the first one on your page of the parade is long enough that I abandoned it pretty quickly. i'm sorry i missed you talking about the book steve. i'll have to watch what i've missed. no insult intended, only curious as to why it is single long clips dominating your page. lack of time to edit, know how, or other? @Patrick, that's a good point... when I posted it I was aiming at the community who want to see each other. If you go to the dairy farmer story, you will see lots of videos on the page, fairly short. That was pretty much an exception, a panaorama of the people in the community. yeah, i asked Stan that same question...and he sold me on the idea. instead of editing clips together....allow people to walk through a story in small clips. probably more interesting to people IN pines plains view. snow leopard is cool it does create high specificity. on that note, is there a web technology to allow public editing of videos directly on your page? what's the new quicktime like? oooh baby its neato, but there is no such thing as pro anymore @patrick: http://www.kaltura.org/ supporsedly does anyone using snow leopard yet? ill let you test it for me but you can edit video with it now, dead easily yeah me markus @markus, meow, purr, not me, waiting for hairballs to be out of it. cool paul, give us some impressions at some point no hair balls, its already pre geeked cool Hey Frank Carver. whats up! lol phil @jay just got back from a family camping trip. relaxed hey guys im dl it right now ha ha hi randy where's weagel? rupert...i hold you resposible for your countrymen where is weagel? haha hey jay its not rupert's fault randy...poolgod lot more people in this verson Ru's not responsible, he even tried to escape :) smother video 2 i made my own theme for wp, to add a bit more of what i wanted in a site, not sure too much about the new html, i don't think the player itself is much of an issue for me wanting to watch video that's great markus thx paul for reminding me np rodli just when i thought i was out... they pull me back in hahah hahah god i miss theses i almost missed this one oh its the healthcare admit it rupert lol it's the fish and chips lols its funny how the americans want to get a NHS style health service, without seeing that the british one is so bad boy do i feal stupid when he talks i dont know any of this Sull started a new disucssion group last year about this stuff: https://groups.google.com/group/artists-in-the-cloud---interactive video storytelling online back like the good old days of browers pjkprods, get used to it, its been this way for twenty plus years. Stan--good news is that the video tag in HTML5 will stop a video if you press another one. enrick still doing pip? We're on a break, so I they're not going to get an nhs style service tho - it'll be like the german one, maybe - that's what makes all this stuff about the nhs so silly 'm back! randy! ha ha @jay That would be great... I wonder, though, if it would work on a YouTube video, for example. I have a real need to embed them and have them stop during the download! vc III http://maddmann.blip.tv/ http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com yeah, that might be the issue...not sure if Youtube will play with HTML5 rigt now jabba is in the house Is Randy using html5 http://www.youtube.com/html5 Bo shoooda hey Jeffrey Hey hi! anyone know how to fix a Mac whose Finder has become dog slow? where is the mike buy snow leopard or do a relaunch That could be a LOT of things. Did you upgrade to snowleopard? as in unusable have you quit the finder and re-started it? up buton use IceClean. it works wonders relaunched several times already takes a bit of time itself. adn restarted finder ugh something got screwed up when I yanked out an unresponsive external hard disk try switching off yes then switching off again Go to "disk utility" and see what it says then switching on hi josh! omy gosh its hosh or do a disk utility permissions check josh hi, finally got an afternoon free to work on my turkey video.. been editing josh leo. posting the 1st part (of many) today! hi josh there's a plugin to play Ogg in safari but yeah, not natively....sad there is a program, i think MountMe. how do i turn my mimke up so your video is a turkey? nice one Josh kodak is a film, right http://flipthemedia.com/index.php/2008/02/flip-video-vlog-codecs-and-you/ Awesome free PC Entry-level editing software = people knowing what a pain in the ass codecs are = demand for codec revolution! hi gena hey Gena! for an open source editor, this is a program I have most hope for: http://www.pitivi.org/wiki/Main_Page another example: folks fighting Flip codecs: http://tech.kateva.org/2008/03/flip-video-ultra-camcorder-initial.html in years past video and still/ography used to be a art, and labor of love that took time and was confusing. now suddenly we expect it to be easy to do with any old program? for Linux for now...but the developers said they see no issue with porting it you're on! there is AVID and the basic version is still free I'm told Cinelerra is good, haven't tried it myself http://www.pitivi.org/wiki/Main_Page avid is on all formats ##open video conference http://maddmann.blip.tv/ avid free dv nice little program Was pitivi the one the guy with the long dark hair was demo'ing at OVC, Jay? almost like fcp i thought it was dicontinued too discontinued* Randy, im not sure if you're purposely talkin gin slomo....but come back to us normally bummer relly slow mo? bummer Yeah, Edward is the lead dev of PTV. Gotcha. thats why we've been laughing...sounds like yure underwater talking slo kaltura avid looks like it was pulled from support. 1 point dedman any how my m4v dont seem to be getting into the flash on blip from hand break i dont know what im doing wrong http://maddmann.blip.tv/ its cool wicked cool back to my mac, and VPN stuff is awesome on mac. I control my SLR camera with my iphone :) true. I stand corrected on the Avid thing @valdez: are those all film reels? yes has anyone checked out any of the online video editors, there's quite a few and i hear they're getting pretty usable? what ever happened to jumpcut they are getting better, but when I played recently, they all want to ensconce your work in their format or platform. Valdez are like 3 blocks away form eachother right now...its cold here http://jaycut.com/campaigns/new-mixer where's Bill except wikipedia has changed that last week: now vetted haha yeah, wikimedia in spanish its called a timeline exactly imovie 8/9 fox me completely #frank this video we made kind of sums up peple's vision of open video in HTML5. one guy mentioned video should be moldable lke a wiki: http://openvideoalliance.org/about/ yeha verdi talked about that at the OVC..."video engine" Meeting's about to begin again. Must jet! Have a good afternoon/night y'all. Here's Verdi's video that Rupert is talking about: http://reports.graymattergravy.com/2009/05/29/open-video/ proxies bye jeffrey! they got hired! Yes, storytelling! Storytelling skills and helping to construct stories. yeah gena. tell stories. you're on eof the vloggers that isnt afriad to go out and interview folks. always cool to watch! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgmvEUgEh6Q new 10minute video It is getting harder to do but I think it needs to be expanded for educational and social purposes. Paul, you're quality has really gotten good. Randy, still slo mo talking. I know thanks OBEY VIGO! so creepy no way ha wtf Randy - it is rough, 10 fathom deep at least. just useing the stock mac book first time in a flash meeting with it http://blog.holyscraphotsprings.com http://blog.holyscraphotsprings.com/ about to publish another short video. pirated music #Krystian post a link to your site so epople can see oh i wonder if this works still it's not video in the camera sense so you might not be interested. http://maddmann.blip.tv/ http://videobloggingweek2009.blogspot.com/ i watched a bunch of them i like the ted talks Tip: you can control url opens in your prefs tab and spam every one like i jutst did but noticed my video didnt load totally agreed. break the boundaries between groups. kate on the phone from barcelona. back in a sec http://blip.tv/file/2531527 Yes, that is why I'm trying to get some of the BlogHers involved. video camp sf? when where? vloggercon 3 its time way passed time vlogger con 3 boston http://www.videocampsf.com/ oct 16 janurary 2010 is Jeffrey still here? he's organizing it. he had to go It think it still comes down to finding out what they want to do. Some folks just want to try it one time. http://videocampsf.com phew. after the 10th restart, Mac decides to cooperate yay!! The Food Bloggers are also instrested but they expressed the time sink and that they are time crunched as it is. seriously deirdre, iceclean, if not at least use cocktail for mac. onyx some like, but I don't. twitters alot to do with timing as well, if people arn't in the mood your link disapears, whilst facebook people are more likeley to check it out at another time, but i agree facebook is quite dire yep got all pissed and drop out its not for every one I got to get going, wife and I are going to eat an early dinner... http://wreckandsalvage.com/pure-salvage/glenn-beck-beats/ see you Josh Have to bust out of the echo chamber and associate with diverse groups. hi gena hi tom hey all. finally made it in. almost forgot. :) Hey Paul! Nice to see you. just like most conservation efforts are, carbon sequestering is generally a net loss, or sleight gain, where as reduction of carbon creation is a much heigher yeild. see I remember you Hi Paul! Here's the new video btw: http://qemic.com/lamnidae/ sorry for the link spam :) thanks for the do ron ron video, are you using HD now? hey jay. good to see ya' pal. Bulletin boards are the future! hi scott i like that name Qemic. heyScott! hey everyone, i have to get going... so what have i missed what are we talkin about. Bye Lauren, hope to see you next time. thanks, certain to get top in google some time if it's not really a word. woah. creepy. this was great, we should do another one again. bye everyone! we've been discusing different aspects of creating video online. pretty freeflowing. im not the only one hearing that right? cool. thanks jay. no randy, your audio sounds real slow motion i dont know why maybee something eles is useing my mike 2 irain who would of thoulght experience with what? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/sets/72157600578134425/ Greece in 2004, and China thailand in 2007 and 8. Ruud south korea last winter krazy stuff over there internet was just to slow. of course the pacific pipeline went down when I was there. crete, austria, san fransisco, france documentaryclub.org yeah, slow speeds are an issue but i see computers gettting faster also, the codec issue that you mentioned, that is VERY mild in western US was a everyday struggle there. agreed. here's that guy who posts from Kenya: http://videojournalist.nl/ Rudd. He's a roving freelance journalist Talking about video length, i always liked the idea of collaborative video, like how Rupert was doing the Hyper-videos, i always thought it would be interesting to do something even feature length with collaborators across the globe contributing their chunk to the project.....just a though I met a lady from Bolivia that is using cafes to videoblog. They had dial-up/slow connections. She is posting 30 seconds at a time. this is so much better than tv Krystian: have you seen the Lost Zombies "mockumentary"...crowd sourced film ack! i think it would be incredible to do a project like that #scott give us a link no i haven't, you got a link by any chance? www.lostzombies.com i believe they unlock story line - and have ppl contribute like a game cool! really great concept. won some stuff at the webbies for community site. very cool japanese phones are two generations ahead of ours! jay - id be interested in talking some more offline on bridging the gap between doc'ers and vlog'ers. there's a lot of ways we can help them and they can help us as well. i just went to DIYfilmdays in Philly. love to find a way to mix the two comunities the sound of silence (good song) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmedia_storytelling journalism is at a different level. of course ahead of indie, it seems. They require video now, more than stills, from their still photographers! particularly now the EOS5DMk2 has such great video. I have a photographer friend who works for Reuters - they're requesting video from him and he can provide with his incredible range of lenses. love my mark II using his regular SLR envy Sound is the issue with that one. i'm getting a lumix gh1 soon, love the look of the video off it, looking forward to paying around with it. how much did your Mark II cost? Yes, that is what is going to evolve into one singular device. I'm loving it. Sorry for just lurking. Hey Jay, thanks for the Burning Man tips. Gotta run. Ciao... gotta drop out and interact with my family. bye folks. 2200, direct from canon. (previously employed by canon :) see you Jim. good luck I just got the GH1 and I LOVE it. Stills and videos are great from it. bye jim! i like johnny thanks! he is all right jonny rocks. www.jonnygoldstein.com www.envizualize.com (gotta plug my brotha) from anotha' motha'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Mitchell GH1: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0903/09030316lumixgh1handson.asp Wow. stay away from dpreview for anything other than basic impression and specs. whats a good site that you like on reviews? fredmiranda forums and user reviews. shouldve just said 'no comment' ha. what kind of camera? there was a film i need to find for you - for the 48hr film fest that was entirely done with an SLR good sounds good! i'd like to know what their sound quality is like i know the codec is avhd, which i think is ok in the new final cut but i'm a premiere user and i know it's fine for that as david said he's used it this was shot entirely with a canon 5d http://vimeo.com/channels/bad for the 48hr ff you can input external mics, i'm not getting it for the audio though, like how inconspicious it is people freek when i pull out the xl1 gor home movies http://arincrumley.com/looking-for-video-software-developer-to-facilitate-gh1-workflow http://arincrumley.com/answering-a-couple-questions-about-the-gh1 http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2326 @randy lol - me too best video from 5d yet! #patrick thanks for link there's examples on vimeo of the audio.video etc... motion jaggies too. noticed a lot of that. @krystian of course - thanks must run, bye all bye tom im a huge fan of the drobo ive seen a lot of lacies and things fail. (although usually its just a power supply and u dont lose data) yes but having a smart raid like the drobo is sweet. and as prices drop you can keep upgrading. as you go. how about audio? can you use wireless mic? cool mini in i assume? my second hand lacie has had no problems so far, touch wood. yeah, mini k what are we talking here? $6-*K total 4k looks more lik $6K-$8K min to me yeah, and my mac only cost $1500 LOL haah dog can you give a link to that Stan? on B&H for 3500 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/583987-REG/Canon_2764B004_EOS_5D_Mark_II.html w the basic lens i just used the old time len great idea. Backup in the field! http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/583953-REG/Canon_2764B003_EOS_5D_Mark_II.html The link http://nextodiusa.com/e link: do what? sorry missed that. yeah for sure, that sounds really cool im in rupert. love to do it in dc. got good connections at silverdocs afi silver in silver spring md yeah! One of the things I'm wanting to do in the new blog is focusing on past and future work. I want to exposed work to new audiences beyond the group. easy to do in Marin county. several small theaters already do this on a regular basis. That said, yes you should all come to L.A. again and do it again. and a sheriff Guys, don't we need to make new content first? haha. any idea for a group contribution project? I would like to, it is called http://createvideonotebook.blogspot.com/ and I am trying to bring together all the nexus points about making videos. It is in Alpha but the ultimate goal is to help people find resources and to show the cross connections between groups. wicked. http://michaelverdi.com/2009/08/13/not-a-video/ love the website Gena! i will be reading it! im digging in now. :) sorry :) Gena, wow! http://createvideonotebook.blogspot.com/ really is Gina. cool! sorry gena. :( i have a project i'm working on, but it's gonna take about two years and have only started preliminary work, so gonna wait till there's some tanglible material to share Thanks - still no where I want it to be but it is getting there. 2 yaers! yeah, i've spent longer on a video lol have money will vlog spin thing ill let markus talk aboutnit something spin spinxpress spinxpress? yeah! people at outhink are working on making it more of a video collab workflow tool, but I have not spoke to them about it in awhile i need to take trips places too. so that sounds great. ha. ill show u mine if you show me yours. ok, vlogger meetup oct 15th in marin. i'll come, critke will com. patrick? sounds familiar. and very basic. ha. @shitmydadsays shows you his dad, HILARIOUS! im there! easy one of my fave projects i last saw was the slow clap contribution project really enjoyed that. very simple idea. Ru, come up with a concept, perhaps we can all create 5 minutes of video each on the same theme and compile it together hey patrick! you're old fashioned wghat about doing half a project, and then meeting each other, and then make the second half.... what about a 48hr Web Video project. draw a theme - a style - music something to that effect...and then you have 2 days to make it. The site is http://thinkingglobalactinglocal.com yes. great folks could vote for them. we could local screenings like youre thinkin rupert. just a thought. or not vote. and just screen the hell out of it. yeah. i like that better. me too. it's a great thought. and something accessible. That is happending with the US Health Care debate. totally. its repeatable. simple. and having all the content from all over - youre not just screening content from your area. Some folks are doing video education and also disinformation. http://vubui.com/2009/08/28/tofurious-seo-workshop-it-worked-for-m/ (for Rupert) go vui brothers !!! It was great and thanks, everyone! ciao totally great to see some faces i may not have seen before. great to talk. Later dudes! bye bye all Bye see you like the song! THIS IS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN! who turns off thelights?