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<description>Show in a Box</description>
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<chats>
<chat personid="0" time="00:50" timestamp="1208714451" jumptime="00:00:14">Hello milt.</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:05" timestamp="1208714466" jumptime="00:00:29">have you done flash before?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:33" timestamp="1208714494" jumptime="00:00:57">i&apos;ve entered another one of these just spectating like now</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:54" timestamp="1208714515" jumptime="00:01:18">cool</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="04:12" timestamp="1208714653" jumptime="00:03:36">&apos;ello</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="04:21" timestamp="1208714662" jumptime="00:03:45">hi ry</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="04:31" timestamp="1208714672" jumptime="00:03:55">hey</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="05:10" timestamp="1208714711" jumptime="00:04:34">and build a barn!!</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="05:16" timestamp="1208714717" jumptime="00:04:40">cool</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="05:30" timestamp="1208714731" jumptime="00:04:54">maybe</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="05:50" timestamp="1208714751" jumptime="00:05:14">there&apos;s jay</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="06:12" timestamp="1208714773" jumptime="00:05:36">we&apos;re trying to get him online</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="06:14" timestamp="1208714775" jumptime="00:05:38">there is no plan</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="06:18" timestamp="1208714779" jumptime="00:05:42">cool</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="06:27" timestamp="1208714788" jumptime="00:05:51">there he is</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="06:30" timestamp="1208714791" jumptime="00:05:54">there he is</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="07:05" timestamp="1208714826" jumptime="00:06:29">looks good</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="09:05" timestamp="1208714946" jumptime="00:08:29">cool</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="11:28" timestamp="1208715089" jumptime="00:10:52">HEATH!!</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="11:30" timestamp="1208715091" jumptime="00:10:54">milt, i cant wait to see your video summing up those poits</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="11:32" timestamp="1208715093" jumptime="00:10:56">points</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="11:37" timestamp="1208715098" jumptime="00:11:01">cool</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="11:41" timestamp="1208715102" jumptime="00:11:05">hey heath</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="11:43" timestamp="1208715104" jumptime="00:11:07">hellol everyone</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="11:54" timestamp="1208715115" jumptime="00:11:18">hello</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="12:03" timestamp="1208715124" jumptime="00:11:27">whaa?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="12:38" timestamp="1208715159" jumptime="00:12:02">I would like to hear what&apos;s actually going on with all the plugins</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="12:59" timestamp="1208715180" jumptime="00:12:23">http://showinabox.tv/about/</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="14:09" timestamp="1208715250" jumptime="00:13:33">hey cheryl</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="14:21" timestamp="1208715262" jumptime="00:13:45">hello cheryl</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="14:24" timestamp="1208715265" jumptime="00:13:48">brb</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="15:19" timestamp="1208715320" jumptime="00:14:43">that sounds good</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="15:24" timestamp="1208715325" jumptime="00:14:48">i can buy that</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="16:18" timestamp="1208715379" jumptime="00:15:42">hey Lan</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="16:24" timestamp="1208715385" jumptime="00:15:48">Hi guys</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="16:29" timestamp="1208715390" jumptime="00:15:53">hi lan, hi verdi!</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="16:36" timestamp="1208715397" jumptime="00:16:00">hi mike</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="16:38" timestamp="1208715399" jumptime="00:16:02">Hey ya&apos;ll - I almost forgot</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="16:43" timestamp="1208715404" jumptime="00:16:07">yeah, jay ...</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="16:56" timestamp="1208715417" jumptime="00:16:20">Me too Michael ;)</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="17:01" timestamp="1208715422" jumptime="00:16:25">Lan are you in a car?</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="17:05" timestamp="1208715426" jumptime="00:16:29">yes</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="17:11" timestamp="1208715432" jumptime="00:16:35">kewl</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="17:25" timestamp="1208715446" jumptime="00:16:49">hey lan</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="17:30" timestamp="1208715451" jumptime="00:16:54">Hi Jay.</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="18:31" timestamp="1208715512" jumptime="00:17:55">im good with names...as long as we &apos;re clear how the community works</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="19:07" timestamp="1208715548" jumptime="00:18:31">heath is a good success story for showinabox</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="19:13" timestamp="1208715554" jumptime="00:18:37">cool</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="19:52" timestamp="1208715593" jumptime="00:19:16">damn, i&apos;m gonna have to catch up on this early stuff after the meeting, gparents have came</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="20:21" timestamp="1208715622" jumptime="00:19:45">see you krystian</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="20:34" timestamp="1208715635" jumptime="00:19:58">by Krystian</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="20:43" timestamp="1208715644" jumptime="00:20:07">it&apos;s done</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="20:48" timestamp="1208715649" jumptime="00:20:12">I just have to post it</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="20:48" timestamp="1208715649" jumptime="00:20:12">cool</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="20:57" timestamp="1208715658" jumptime="00:20:21">now you&apos;re talking</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="21:01" timestamp="1208715662" jumptime="00:20:25">well one of them is done</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="22:13" timestamp="1208715734" jumptime="00:21:37">the cool thing about that would be there will be so many faces &amp; links &amp; it will be a much larger community</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="22:23" timestamp="1208715744" jumptime="00:21:47">sweet!!</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="23:33" timestamp="1208715814" jumptime="00:22:57">say hi to my mom</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="23:34" timestamp="1208715815" jumptime="00:22:58">ha</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="23:47" timestamp="1208715828" jumptime="00:23:11">Hi MOM!</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="23:47" timestamp="1208715828" jumptime="00:23:11">hi MOM</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="23:54" timestamp="1208715835" jumptime="00:23:18">Hi Ryanne&apos;s Mom!</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="24:01" timestamp="1208715842" jumptime="00:23:25">Hi Mom!!!</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="24:11" timestamp="1208715852" jumptime="00:23:35">How about the pledge drive?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="25:32" timestamp="1208715933" jumptime="00:24:56">yeah, I&apos;m disappointed that Markus didn&apos;t want to come ... I wanted to hear his thoughts on how to handle the fork</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="26:19" timestamp="1208715980" jumptime="00:25:43">what is Video Press??????</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="26:54" timestamp="1208716015" jumptime="00:26:18">VideoPress = Charles&apos; plugin suite: Video Archive, Recent Videos, Related Videos, etc</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="27:03" timestamp="1208716024" jumptime="00:26:27">Milt...video press is the name of all Charles&apos; plugins: http://changelog.ca/project/VideoPress</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="27:15" timestamp="1208716036" jumptime="00:26:39">oooohhhhhhh cool</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="27:43" timestamp="1208716064" jumptime="00:27:07">Verdi, that would rock!</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="29:02" timestamp="1208716143" jumptime="00:28:26">part of the problem is the plugins don&apos;t work</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="29:11" timestamp="1208716152" jumptime="00:28:35">ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="29:18" timestamp="1208716159" jumptime="00:28:42">verdi, can you write up a summary of your plugin idea? i think david meade said he was interested in building it</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="29:19" timestamp="1208716160" jumptime="00:28:43">so it&apos;s hard to just be like &apos;ok use these, here is a tutorial&apos; when they are broken</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="29:28" timestamp="1208716169" jumptime="00:28:52">yeah, y&apos;don&apos;t really want to promote the plugins when they don&apos;t work</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="29:38" timestamp="1208716179" jumptime="00:29:02">welll then</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="30:29" timestamp="1208716230" jumptime="00:29:53">hallelujah to that (this is better than email)</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="30:48" timestamp="1208716249" jumptime="00:30:12">http://www.jchtv.com/</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="30:51" timestamp="1208716252" jumptime="00:30:15">click share</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="30:54" timestamp="1208716255" jumptime="00:30:18">on this site</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="30:56" timestamp="1208716257" jumptime="00:30:20">scary</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="31:28" timestamp="1208716289" jumptime="00:30:52">i have an issue with the vPIP share button, makes the default wordpress rss look odd in a reader</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="33:20" timestamp="1208716401" jumptime="00:32:44">yea, like the bug with Vpip and IE</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="33:37" timestamp="1208716418" jumptime="00:33:01">I think we are busy trying to make money. If money is raised to hire someone to work on them that would be a great solution.</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="33:40" timestamp="1208716421" jumptime="00:33:04">yeah, cheryl asked how we can use the forum do get things done. Maybe if we get enough users screaming for change, develpers will come to us</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="33:49" timestamp="1208716430" jumptime="00:33:13">i haven&apos;t got a pc to test anything with ie.</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="33:50" timestamp="1208716431" jumptime="00:33:14">i think money is a bad idea actually</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="34:05" timestamp="1208716446" jumptime="00:33:29">money makes things complicated</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="34:10" timestamp="1208716451" jumptime="00:33:34">Lan is correct. maybe if we pay to fix our own site...and then share the fixes</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="34:21" timestamp="1208716462" jumptime="00:33:45">well yeah if it&apos;s our own sites maybe</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="34:30" timestamp="1208716471" jumptime="00:33:54">not pay them for SIAB work</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="34:51" timestamp="1208716492" jumptime="00:34:15">its not SIAB work anymore...its fixing Video Press plugins</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="35:11" timestamp="1208716512" jumptime="00:34:35">its common in the WP community to give donations to plugin/theme makers</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="35:17" timestamp="1208716518" jumptime="00:34:41">yes, I think people could be paid to fis the plugins.</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="35:23" timestamp="1208716524" jumptime="00:34:47">cheryl, this is a good explanation</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="35:25" timestamp="1208716526" jumptime="00:34:49">i have to embed invisible html into each posts to make the wordpress feed podcast compatanle</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="35:40" timestamp="1208716541" jumptime="00:35:04">compatable*</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="35:50" timestamp="1208716551" jumptime="00:35:14">ok i hear you about videopress getting fixed</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="36:01" timestamp="1208716562" jumptime="00:35:25">are you using feedburner for the feeds</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="36:36" timestamp="1208716597" jumptime="00:36:00">me? yeah, but the .mov media doesn&apos;t show as default with vpip, i have to embed some code for it to appear</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="36:42" timestamp="1208716603" jumptime="00:36:06">it&apos;s never done though</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="36:47" timestamp="1208716608" jumptime="00:36:11">no matter how much you raise</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="36:49" timestamp="1208716610" jumptime="00:36:13">that&apos;s my issue</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="36:53" timestamp="1208716614" jumptime="00:36:17">Kryson, what&apos;s your vlog?</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="37:05" timestamp="1208716626" jumptime="00:36:29">plugins will never be done</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="37:08" timestamp="1208716629" jumptime="00:36:32">http://kmogvideo.net</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="37:12" timestamp="1208716633" jumptime="00:36:36">they won&apos;t always work for everyone</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="37:27" timestamp="1208716648" jumptime="00:36:51">i&apos;m Krystian, on a laptop...</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="37:31" timestamp="1208716652" jumptime="00:36:55">(sorry, thought you were somone else)</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="37:32" timestamp="1208716653" jumptime="00:36:56">so true</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="37:39" timestamp="1208716660" jumptime="00:37:03">ssssoooooo true</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="37:54" timestamp="1208716675" jumptime="00:37:18">that&apos;s the blackhole i speak of with paying someone to make something work</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="38:34" timestamp="1208716715" jumptime="00:37:58">Ryanne, that is true, they will never be done. I think bugs can be fixed, like hiring someone to clean your house. You know it will get dirty again but you need it clean and noone has time to do it so you can pay someone.</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="38:56" timestamp="1208716737" jumptime="00:38:20">yeah, we&apos;realways changing..and sharing our changes</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="39:00" timestamp="1208716741" jumptime="00:38:24">but we&apos;ve been down this path already </chat>
<chat personid="8" time="39:11" timestamp="1208716752" jumptime="00:38:35">i like what you&apos;re doing with flash/ h264 lately, interesting, got a few theme ideas</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="39:14" timestamp="1208716755" jumptime="00:38:38">bugs are infinite</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="39:21" timestamp="1208716762" jumptime="00:38:45">all true</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="39:35" timestamp="1208716776" jumptime="00:38:59">we&apos;ve been working on these plugins for a year </chat>
<chat personid="5" time="39:44" timestamp="1208716785" jumptime="00:39:08">yes, flexible is good</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="40:00" timestamp="1208716801" jumptime="00:39:24">sounds fine to me</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="40:01" timestamp="1208716802" jumptime="00:39:25">lan ar eyou in a car? ha ha watch the road!</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="41:07" timestamp="1208716868" jumptime="00:40:31">yeah hurray for h.264!!!!</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="41:23" timestamp="1208716884" jumptime="00:40:47">Verdi - I need to talk to you again, about how you do the h.264 because I tried it and it didn&apos;t work for me.</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="41:45" timestamp="1208716906" jumptime="00:41:09">i like a higher quality .mov option, and a lower quality iPod format</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="42:58" timestamp="1208716979" jumptime="00:42:22">yes ryanne, I;m at a park in my car.</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="43:02" timestamp="1208716983" jumptime="00:42:26">ha</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="43:04" timestamp="1208716985" jumptime="00:42:28">My battery ran out.</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="43:15" timestamp="1208716996" jumptime="00:42:39">on battery #2</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="43:22" timestamp="1208717003" jumptime="00:42:46">that&apos;s hardcore!</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="43:38" timestamp="1208717019" jumptime="00:43:02">wow Lan!</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="44:16" timestamp="1208717057" jumptime="00:43:40">we lost you</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="44:21" timestamp="1208717062" jumptime="00:43:45">jay you are stalled for me</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="44:21" timestamp="1208717062" jumptime="00:43:45">that was weird</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="44:56" timestamp="1208717097" jumptime="00:44:20">i know the subscriber numbers for those formats but not the downloads</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="45:09" timestamp="1208717110" jumptime="00:44:33">unless i can look at blip and it gives me numbers on each formats</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="45:17" timestamp="1208717118" jumptime="00:44:41">ry, I wonder if blip.tv would have those #s (I think it would)</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="45:27" timestamp="1208717128" jumptime="00:44:51">let me look</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="45:42" timestamp="1208717143" jumptime="00:45:06">heath, good to know!!</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="45:43" timestamp="1208717144" jumptime="00:45:07">I can say that with Noodle Scar Daily we had the VAST majority were WMV HD</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="45:44" timestamp="1208717145" jumptime="00:45:08">wow, bizaare</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="46:07" timestamp="1208717168" jumptime="00:45:31">hi markus</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="46:12" timestamp="1208717173" jumptime="00:45:36">hi folks</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="46:17" timestamp="1208717178" jumptime="00:45:41">my own numbers are totally skewed, the only ppl who watch my vlog are my family &amp; friends</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="46:22" timestamp="1208717183" jumptime="00:45:46">MARKUS!!!</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="46:51" timestamp="1208717212" jumptime="00:46:15">hiya markus</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="47:47" timestamp="1208717268" jumptime="00:47:11">i have 3 Ogg subscribers, bless their hearts</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="47:54" timestamp="1208717275" jumptime="00:47:18">i do it for them!!!!!</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="47:55" timestamp="1208717276" jumptime="00:47:19">it made sense, heath</chat>
<chat personid="3" time="48:18" timestamp="1208717299" jumptime="00:47:42">brb</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="48:22" timestamp="1208717303" jumptime="00:47:46">fwiw: ourmedia sees 1/3 ie7, 1/3 ie6 and 1/3 firefox</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="48:25" timestamp="1208717306" jumptime="00:47:49">i don&apos;t know what ogg is</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="48:37" timestamp="1208717318" jumptime="00:48:01">milt qt pro and vegas is a little funky , talk to me</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="48:50" timestamp="1208717331" jumptime="00:48:14">&amp; that&apos;s cool you have Ogg subscribers, Ry - and I think publishing in an open source format is the right thing to do</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="49:05" timestamp="1208717346" jumptime="00:48:29">Ogg/Theora is an open source codec </chat>
<chat personid="0" time="49:17" timestamp="1208717358" jumptime="00:48:41">ah right</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="49:34" timestamp="1208717375" jumptime="00:48:58">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="49:45" timestamp="1208717386" jumptime="00:49:09">what&apos;s that verdi</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="49:47" timestamp="1208717388" jumptime="00:49:11">thanks</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="50:07" timestamp="1208717408" jumptime="00:49:31">talk about content discussions</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="51:40" timestamp="1208717501" jumptime="00:51:04">ooh that&apos;s it!!!! I was using the wrong flash player</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="51:48" timestamp="1208717509" jumptime="00:51:12">believe it jay</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="52:09" timestamp="1208717530" jumptime="00:51:33">But what do people do who don&apos;t have that flash player?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="53:28" timestamp="1208717609" jumptime="00:52:52">milt, usually they will update Flash to most recent version</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="53:44" timestamp="1208717625" jumptime="00:53:08">ok sounds good</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="53:52" timestamp="1208717633" jumptime="00:53:16">yup</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="56:08" timestamp="1208717769" jumptime="00:55:32">yes, we need to install bbPress plugins</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="56:11" timestamp="1208717772" jumptime="00:55:35">we have none</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="57:04" timestamp="1208717825" jumptime="00:56:28">what would be the benefit from marking something as &quot;resolved&quot;?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="57:13" timestamp="1208717834" jumptime="00:56:37">that&apos;s a good way of putting it Heath</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="57:48" timestamp="1208717869" jumptime="00:57:12">@Markus, it would document X problem has Y solution (for things that get asked over &amp; over)</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="58:15" timestamp="1208717896" jumptime="00:57:39">@Markus &amp; so people visiting the forum could see visually &quot;this has been answered &amp; the solution worked&quot;</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="58:34" timestamp="1208717915" jumptime="00:57:58">vs &quot;this was asked but hasn&apos;t been answered in a way that solved the prob&quot;</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:00:12" timestamp="1208718013" jumptime="00:59:36">Eric should document that for you somehow</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:00:21" timestamp="1208718022" jumptime="00:59:45">@cheryl: how do we use that (is it something we search on).  my experience is that such flags more often start arguments than anything else</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:00:44" timestamp="1208718045" jumptime="01:00:08">wow! lan is driving?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:00:50" timestamp="1208718051" jumptime="01:00:14">ha, Milt, now you can sympathize w/our developers (&quot;I don&apos;t want to be put in that position&quot;)</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:01:06" timestamp="1208718067" jumptime="01:00:30">yup that is true</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:01:15" timestamp="1208718076" jumptime="01:00:39">aside: developers are rarely &quot;demand&quot; driven</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:01:17" timestamp="1208718078" jumptime="01:00:41">@Markus if it starts fights I guess we uninstall it... ;)</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:01:27" timestamp="1208718088" jumptime="01:00:51">hmmmm interesting markus</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:02:01" timestamp="1208718122" jumptime="01:01:25">http://showinabox.tv/forum/forum.php?id=6</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:02:03" timestamp="1208718124" jumptime="01:01:27">jay, i think the showcase area deals well with that too</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:02:24" timestamp="1208718145" jumptime="01:01:48">really not, Markus? I don&apos;t know many developers, but 2 have told me they&apos;d be interested in knowing what features people are wanting before they develop something new -  I don&apos;t mean &quot;demand driven&quot; in the sense that I make a demand &amp; you fulfill it, but knowing what features would be popular</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:03:51" timestamp="1208718232" jumptime="01:03:15">telling the story you want to tell in the way you want to tell it</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:04:03" timestamp="1208718244" jumptime="01:03:27">ok guys, I gotta go now. It was great to see you all and hear about these topics.</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:04:05" timestamp="1208718246" jumptime="01:03:29">yes, we can showcase vlogs that have done cool stuff to bring attention</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:04:09" timestamp="1208718250" jumptime="01:03:33">bye lan!</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:04:11" timestamp="1208718252" jumptime="01:03:35">see you Lan</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:04:15" timestamp="1208718256" jumptime="01:03:39">by lan</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:04:16" timestamp="1208718257" jumptime="01:03:40">bui bui lan</chat>
<chat personid="6" time="01:04:25" timestamp="1208718266" jumptime="01:03:49">late!</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:04:32" timestamp="1208718273" jumptime="01:03:56">that was good Markus</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:04:41" timestamp="1208718282" jumptime="01:04:05">ask me about svn</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:04:56" timestamp="1208718297" jumptime="01:04:20">is lo fi a siab site?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:05:02" timestamp="1208718303" jumptime="01:04:26">yup</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:05:20" timestamp="1208718321" jumptime="01:04:44">we resolved all that</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:05:28" timestamp="1208718329" jumptime="01:04:52">ok, now you are talking over my head  ;)</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:05:42" timestamp="1208718343" jumptime="01:05:06">we&apos;ll explain heath</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:05:50" timestamp="1208718351" jumptime="01:05:14">highly unlikey  ;)</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:06:32" timestamp="1208718393" jumptime="01:05:56">I hear you</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:06:33" timestamp="1208718394" jumptime="01:05:57">we can hear you</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:06:33" timestamp="1208718394" jumptime="01:05:57">yes</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:06:36" timestamp="1208718397" jumptime="01:06:00">hey!</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:06:53" timestamp="1208718414" jumptime="01:06:17">I know I&apos;m not stupid ... but do feel that way when trying to make it work</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:06:56" timestamp="1208718417" jumptime="01:06:20">yes</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:07:00" timestamp="1208718421" jumptime="01:06:24">woohoo!!</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:08:20" timestamp="1208718501" jumptime="01:07:44">d&apos;oh! I need the URL...</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:08:37" timestamp="1208718518" jumptime="01:08:01">URLs</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:08:46" timestamp="1208718527" jumptime="01:08:10">http://code.google.com/p/videowrangler</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:08:48" timestamp="1208718529" jumptime="01:08:12">charles has subversion for all of VideoPress</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:08:59" timestamp="1208718540" jumptime="01:08:23">videopress is on charles&apos; server</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:09:24" timestamp="1208718565" jumptime="01:08:48">no shit, Markus</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:09:24" timestamp="1208718565" jumptime="01:08:48">not good :)</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:09:38" timestamp="1208718579" jumptime="01:09:02">Geekarama</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:09:56" timestamp="1208718597" jumptime="01:09:20">the one gui for mac that I found installed okay but doesn&apos;t really work - don&apos;t know what to do with it now that it&apos;s installed</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:10:12" timestamp="1208718613" jumptime="01:09:36">yes!! they SUCK!</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:10:18" timestamp="1208718619" jumptime="01:09:42">so glad to know I&apos;m not nuts</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:10:22" timestamp="1208718623" jumptime="01:09:46">!!!</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:10:36" timestamp="1208718637" jumptime="01:10:00">I&apos;m willing to learn command line stuff, I&apos;m not scared of it</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:10:42" timestamp="1208718643" jumptime="01:10:06">I just don&apos;t know it</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:10:54" timestamp="1208718655" jumptime="01:10:18">you are a warrior! Zena</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:11:09" timestamp="1208718670" jumptime="01:10:33">If you help me learn it I&apos;m willing to screencast it</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:11:25" timestamp="1208718686" jumptime="01:10:49">xoxoxoxoxoxoxo I love you markus</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="01:12:43" timestamp="1208718764" jumptime="01:12:07">lol</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:12:44" timestamp="1208718765" jumptime="01:12:08">but not always, like with Enric</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:12:55" timestamp="1208718776" jumptime="01:12:19">the forum is great</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:12:57" timestamp="1208718778" jumptime="01:12:21">all true heath</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:13:08" timestamp="1208718789" jumptime="01:12:32">but folks do like to help each other</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:13:15" timestamp="1208718796" jumptime="01:12:39">that&apos;s why we&apos;re all here today</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:13:22" timestamp="1208718803" jumptime="01:12:46">yes</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:13:23" timestamp="1208718804" jumptime="01:12:47">let&apos;s do a pledgedrive to send deadman to programming courses</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:13:32" timestamp="1208718813" jumptime="01:12:56">lol</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:13:36" timestamp="1208718817" jumptime="01:13:00">great idea</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:13:45" timestamp="1208718826" jumptime="01:13:09">Markus, that&apos;s completely nuts!</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:14:11" timestamp="1208718852" jumptime="01:13:35">haha okay....push me to code</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:14:23" timestamp="1208718864" jumptime="01:13:47">you are soooo funny~!</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:14:27" timestamp="1208718868" jumptime="01:13:51">i&apos;m getting into it</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:15:13" timestamp="1208718914" jumptime="01:14:37">yeah, the forum is really helpful to follow issues and desires</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:15:23" timestamp="1208718924" jumptime="01:14:47">maybe it is a good idea to have a pledge drive at siab so people can invest time and money into developing</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:16:14" timestamp="1208718975" jumptime="01:15:38">we could start a Pledge Drive for &quot;Video Wrangler&quot;....and we raise money to do what we want</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:16:40" timestamp="1208719001" jumptime="01:16:04">i failed it too ;)  actually we had the same kind of teacher</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:18:31" timestamp="1208719112" jumptime="01:17:55">would it make sense to have a video help section too, not just focusing on the platform, but on content too?</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:18:38" timestamp="1208719119" jumptime="01:18:02">correct...its should only be fun</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:18:50" timestamp="1208719131" jumptime="01:18:14">i monitor everything too</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:19:16" timestamp="1208719157" jumptime="01:18:40">http://showinabox.tv/forum/forum.php?id=6  (here&apos;s a section for video content)</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:19:35" timestamp="1208719176" jumptime="01:18:59">does anyone know how to make bbPress URL&apos;s use human readable links?</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:19:44" timestamp="1208719185" jumptime="01:19:08">we were having problems</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:19:47" timestamp="1208719188" jumptime="01:19:11">thanks @cheryl, i do want themers to help with pledgedrive.  i think folks will want custom progress meters</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:20:09" timestamp="1208719210" jumptime="01:19:33">yeah, I want to help with that, Markus</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:20:13" timestamp="1208719214" jumptime="01:19:37">Firebug rocks!!</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:20:20" timestamp="1208719221" jumptime="01:19:44">i like CSSEdit</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:20:56" timestamp="1208719257" jumptime="01:20:20">@cheryl, btw, i have read your style guidelines on wiki when working on pledgedrive</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:21:00" timestamp="1208719261" jumptime="01:20:24">hahaha IE expert</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:21:08" timestamp="1208719269" jumptime="01:20:32">fwi, i test under all major browsers</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:21:45" timestamp="1208719306" jumptime="01:21:09">completely agree heath</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:22:31" timestamp="1208719352" jumptime="01:21:55">incorporating storytelling stuff into our forum is fantastic - I want to see that &amp; contribute if possible</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:22:58" timestamp="1208719379" jumptime="01:22:22">5 minutes guys</chat>
<chat personid="9" time="01:23:33" timestamp="1208719414" jumptime="01:22:57">right</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:23:34" timestamp="1208719415" jumptime="01:22:58">that&apos;s the best book for learning but it&apos;s hard to look stuff up in it after the fact, so you need a supplement like a CSS reference</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:23:53" timestamp="1208719434" jumptime="01:23:17">there&apos;s a head first PHP book coming out soon if not out already</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:23:55" timestamp="1208719436" jumptime="01:23:19">what&apos;s that book again Michael</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:24:12" timestamp="1208719453" jumptime="01:23:36">heath: Head First HTML with XHTML &amp; CSS</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:24:13" timestamp="1208719454" jumptime="01:23:37">there&apos;s a great CSS podcast on miro at the moment too: CSS Tricks</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:24:29" timestamp="1208719470" jumptime="01:23:53">cool</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:24:30" timestamp="1208719471" jumptime="01:23:54">ooo, Krystian, thx for that tip, will check it out!!</chat>
<chat personid="7" time="01:24:48" timestamp="1208719489" jumptime="01:24:12">here you go heath http://www.amazon.com/Head-First-HTML-CSS-XHTML/dp/059610197X</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:24:51" timestamp="1208719492" jumptime="01:24:15">Very good, just uses text pad and a photoshop mockup</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:24:55" timestamp="1208719496" jumptime="01:24:19">btw - what is miro?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:25:01" timestamp="1208719502" jumptime="01:24:25">thanks markus</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:25:10" timestamp="1208719511" jumptime="01:24:34">http://getmiro.com it&apos;s like fireant</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:25:24" timestamp="1208719525" jumptime="01:24:48">@M miro is another aggregator like iTunes that you can use to subscribe to RSS feeds &amp; watch video</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:25:32" timestamp="1208719533" jumptime="01:24:56">oooh</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:26:55" timestamp="1208719616" jumptime="01:26:19">Milt...send us a link to that video!</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:27:00" timestamp="1208719621" jumptime="01:26:24">pity it was so short</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:27:06" timestamp="1208719627" jumptime="01:26:30">yep I will</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:27:12" timestamp="1208719633" jumptime="01:26:36">probably tonight</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:27:43" timestamp="1208719664" jumptime="01:27:07">oooh, yeah, I can&apos;t believe we almost didn&apos;t talk abt that. YES! let&apos;s do that PLEASE</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:27:59" timestamp="1208719680" jumptime="01:27:23">that sounds good</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:28:14" timestamp="1208719695" jumptime="01:27:38">we can do more of these if people want them</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:28:19" timestamp="1208719700" jumptime="01:27:43">hugs &amp; kisses to you all</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:28:21" timestamp="1208719702" jumptime="01:27:45">look at that camera1</chat>
<chat personid="4" time="01:28:23" timestamp="1208719704" jumptime="01:27:47">!!!</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:28:23" timestamp="1208719704" jumptime="01:27:47">sweet heath!!</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:28:28" timestamp="1208719709" jumptime="01:27:52">very </chat>
<chat personid="1" time="01:28:31" timestamp="1208719712" jumptime="01:27:55">but cool</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="01:28:33" timestamp="1208719714" jumptime="01:27:57">me too</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:28:53" timestamp="1208719734" jumptime="01:28:17">bye</chat>
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