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<description>The Colorado Front Range OpenSolaris User Group presents a talk by Brendan Gregg.

Final edited video with slides can be found at blogs.sun.com slash video</description>
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<keyword>dtrace</keyword>
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<keyword>kernel</keyword>
<keyword>opensolaris</keyword>
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<keyword>solaris</keyword>
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<chat personid="0" time="26:19" timestamp="1256862981" jumptime="00:16:18">lisa are you getting sound okay?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="26:49" timestamp="1256863011" jumptime="00:16:48">Hi.  No, unfortunately not.  It may be something on my end though.</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="27:37" timestamp="1256863059" jumptime="00:17:36">I do hear sound now, but it is very choppy.</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="28:43" timestamp="1256863125" jumptime="00:18:42">Deirdre... Sounds good.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="29:33" timestamp="1256863175" jumptime="00:19:32">okay now?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="30:01" timestamp="1256863203" jumptime="00:20:00">I can&apos;t hear Brendan very well.</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="30:07" timestamp="1256863209" jumptime="00:20:06">I could hear Lynn well.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="30:18" timestamp="1256863220" jumptime="00:20:17">now?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="31:01" timestamp="1256863263" jumptime="00:21:00">About the same (Still not great)</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="31:05" timestamp="1256863267" jumptime="00:21:04">I&apos;m hearing him, but he&apos;s soudning distant</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="32:04" timestamp="1256863326" jumptime="00:22:03">now?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="32:16" timestamp="1256863338" jumptime="00:22:15">Hasn&apos;t changed much.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="32:31" timestamp="1256863353" jumptime="00:22:30">sory, can&apos;t monitor from my damn laptop, dunno why</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="32:36" timestamp="1256863358" jumptime="00:22:35">..getting better though</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="33:03" timestamp="1256863385" jumptime="00:23:02">When he is over by the podium it seems better (for some reason)</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="33:33" timestamp="1256863415" jumptime="00:23:32">The room mic. picks him up by the podium?</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="33:51" timestamp="1256863433" jumptime="00:23:50">thanks, I know whats&apos; going on</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="34:01" timestamp="1256863443" jumptime="00:24:00">will have to drop out and come back, sorry</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="34:12" timestamp="1256863454" jumptime="00:24:11">The slides are at http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/download/User+Group+frosug/meetings/frosug%2D091029.odp</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="34:20" timestamp="1256863462" jumptime="00:24:19">Thanks Clay.</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="35:17" timestamp="1256863519" jumptime="00:25:16">Wow... Much better sound now!</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="35:30" timestamp="1256863532" jumptime="00:25:29">I screwed up a setting, sorry</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="35:35" timestamp="1256863537" jumptime="00:25:34">Also, we&apos;re on slide 7 (bouncing back to 6 for laughing at SMC more)</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="36:17" timestamp="1256863579" jumptime="00:26:16">No prob Deirdre.  Sounds great now.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="51:58" timestamp="1256864520" jumptime="00:41:57">slide 13 now</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="52:37" timestamp="1256864559" jumptime="00:42:36">I&apos;m getting a lot of static on the line</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="54:02" timestamp="1256864644" jumptime="00:44:01">hmm anyone else?</chat>
<chat personid="1" time="54:44" timestamp="1256864686" jumptime="00:44:43">No.</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="55:08" timestamp="1256864710" jumptime="00:45:07">hmm perhaps its my connection</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:14:00" timestamp="1256865842" jumptime="01:03:59">Deirdre could you capture his screen for the demo off the projector?</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:14:02" timestamp="1256865844" jumptime="01:04:01">Thank you</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:18:12" timestamp="1256866094" jumptime="01:08:11">For the blog which Brendan was talking about see http://blogs.sun.com/brendan/entry/7410_hardware_update_and_analyzing</chat>
<chat personid="8" time="01:22:35" timestamp="1256866357" jumptime="01:12:34">thanks Clay</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:26:59" timestamp="1256866621" jumptime="01:16:58">Question was is DTrace better than the previous tools for accuracy</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:52:22" timestamp="1256868144" jumptime="01:42:21">whats that command?</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:59:15" timestamp="1256868557" jumptime="01:49:14">Kevin Sorry the bash command was basically while [[ 1 == 1 ]]; do :; done &amp;</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:59:21" timestamp="1256868563" jumptime="01:49:20">I don&apos;t recall the exact comand</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="01:59:25" timestamp="1256868567" jumptime="01:49:24">thanx</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="01:59:29" timestamp="1256868571" jumptime="01:49:28">That was for burning a core.</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:04:34" timestamp="1256868876" jumptime="01:54:33">fast Fourier transform would be brutal</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:05:29" timestamp="1256868931" jumptime="01:55:28">Arnaud Just pointed out a JVM with large memory could be bad too as the garbage collection time would be large too</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:06:08" timestamp="1256868970" jumptime="01:56:07">Arnaud runs into all the items on slide 30</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:07:18" timestamp="1256869040" jumptime="01:57:17">are the slides availabe here ?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:08:16" timestamp="1256869098" jumptime="01:58:15">..and can we submit questions to Brendan in the Q&amp;A section ?</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:09:30" timestamp="1256869172" jumptime="01:59:29">Kevin I&apos;ll take questions for Brendan just ask here</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:09:49" timestamp="1256869191" jumptime="01:59:48">where are the slides?</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:10:09" timestamp="1256869211" jumptime="02:00:08">The slides are available athttp://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/download/User+Group+frosug/meetings/frosug%2D091029.odp</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:13:46" timestamp="1256869428" jumptime="02:03:45">thnx</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:14:39" timestamp="1256869481" jumptime="02:04:38">The image is at http://blogs.sun.com/brendan/resource/latency-2/latency-2-x2-crop.png</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:17:51" timestamp="1256869673" jumptime="02:07:50">The blog being talked about is now http://blogs.sun.com/brendan/entry/latency_art_rainbow_pterodactyl</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:21:08" timestamp="1256869870" jumptime="02:11:07">Now talking about the entry http://blogs.sun.com/brendan/entry/unusual_disk_latency</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:25:06" timestamp="1256870108" jumptime="02:15:05">Hi Diana! Thank you for joining</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:27:39" timestamp="1256870261" jumptime="02:17:38">Video is off the last blog post</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:29:44" timestamp="1256870386" jumptime="02:19:43">Any questions? We&apos;ve moved to the thank you slide</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:29:53" timestamp="1256870395" jumptime="02:19:52">i have one </chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:30:16" timestamp="1256870418" jumptime="02:20:15">Cool, start typing it out and I&apos;ll proxy for you. Sadly my laptop speakers stink or we could use your microphone</chat>
<chat personid="11" time="02:30:30" timestamp="1256870432" jumptime="02:20:29">:)</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:30:34" timestamp="1256870436" jumptime="02:20:33">ZFS latency with NVRAM arrays </chat>
<chat personid="11" time="02:30:49" timestamp="1256870451" jumptime="02:20:48">Of course this is a little above my head  :)</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:31:01" timestamp="1256870463" jumptime="02:21:00">Kevin Go ahead</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:31:20" timestamp="1256870482" jumptime="02:21:19">Diana ah but you put this together. Thank you</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:31:29" timestamp="1256870491" jumptime="02:21:28">question in room: does overclocking help?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:31:36" timestamp="1256870498" jumptime="02:21:35">why would we seeing over 1 ms latency with NVRAM array with 64GB of cache</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:31:52" timestamp="1256870514" jumptime="02:21:51">suppose it was memory bound eg graphics program</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:32:03" timestamp="1256870525" jumptime="02:22:02">Kevin what type of system are the arrays on and what type of work load?</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:32:04" timestamp="1256870526" jumptime="02:22:03">..and we are only doing write work load (write cache is only 10% used on the array)</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:32:16" timestamp="1256870538" jumptime="02:22:15">its a STK 9985V array</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:32:45" timestamp="1256870567" jumptime="02:22:44">and its a trading applications, doing about 202 IOPS each being about 12K</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:32:58" timestamp="1256870580" jumptime="02:22:57">Kevin, raise your hand to speak and ask the question to the room</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:33:14" timestamp="1256870596" jumptime="02:23:13">Kevin we&apos;ll try to patch your microphone into our room if you have one</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:33:31" timestamp="1256870613" jumptime="02:23:30">i have one</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:33:35" timestamp="1256870617" jumptime="02:23:34">hang on</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:34:00" timestamp="1256870642" jumptime="02:23:59"> go ahead</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:34:04" timestamp="1256870646" jumptime="02:24:03">ok</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:34:05" timestamp="1256870647" jumptime="02:24:04">KEvin</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:35:12" timestamp="1256870714" jumptime="02:25:11">did u get that</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:35:23" timestamp="1256870725" jumptime="02:25:22">Do you mean 202k IOPS?</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:35:37" timestamp="1256870739" jumptime="02:25:36">We did get it! :D</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:35:37" timestamp="1256870739" jumptime="02:25:36">no just 202IOps</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:35:57" timestamp="1256870759" jumptime="02:25:56">Very small number of IOps</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:36:04" timestamp="1256870766" jumptime="02:26:03">btw, we don&apos;t have log device</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:37:51" timestamp="1256870873" jumptime="02:27:50">gr8!! thnx</chat>
<chat personid="5" time="02:40:05" timestamp="1256871007" jumptime="02:30:04">Another question in the room is trouble understanding how the zil (ZFS intent log) works when the system doesn&apos;t have time to &quot;catch up&quot; and dump the log to disk</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:48:20" timestamp="1256871502" jumptime="02:38:19"> ? whether the kstat interface is stable</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:54:40" timestamp="1256871882" jumptime="02:44:39">this stream will end in ~4 minutes</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:54:51" timestamp="1256871893" jumptime="02:44:50">I have a feeling we won&apos;t be finished in the room here</chat>
<chat personid="0" time="02:54:56" timestamp="1256871898" jumptime="02:44:55">...but we&apos;ll have video</chat>
<chat personid="2" time="02:58:38" timestamp="1256872120" jumptime="02:48:37">thnx. this streaming was useful</chat>
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